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Left, Right, and Center: The Daily’s political columnists discuss the stimulus bill

February 17, 2009


Conservative

By Russ Wung


On the surface, it is hard to find fault with the recent and often repeated claim that the size of government, big or small, is irrelevant as long as that government works. Yet recent events — and Congress’s behavior dating back all the way to 2005 — suggest that this claim is fatally flawed in presupposing that big government can ever possibly be effective.

The “compromise” stimulus bill is just the latest in the story of governmental incompetence. By stretching the notion that deficit spending can be used to help the economy into the incredibly glib assertion that “spending is stimulus,” politicians have created the perfect blank check for themselves.

Otto von Bismarck was perhaps speaking for legislators everywhere when he suggested that “laws are like sausages — it is best not to see them being made.” Thankfully, we do see laws being made in this country. Is it bipartisanship or a conspiracy against the taxpayer? As far as the stimulus bill goes, if you’re not outraged, you’re not paying attention.

In January, many commentators made the plausible argument that massive infrastructure spending could be a win-win proposition. Yet barely any of the stimulus funds are actually destined for such purposes. Instead, what we have is an atrocious mish-mash of decidedly unstimulating special interest appropriations and bureaucratic expansion.

So the size of government does matter — an incompetent big government is far more damaging than an incompetent small government. Furthermore, it is quite possible to have a competent small government but essentially impossible to have a competent big government.

Take the private sector. Corporations exist to earn profits. To do so, they must be lean, agile and efficient no matter their absolute size. Yet empirical observation suggests that staying this way is nearly impossible over the long term. Big corporations seldom remain market leaders for more than a few decades unless propped up by the government; many of the companies that were near the top of the Fortune 500 in 1955 no longer exist today.

U.S. Steel, founded in 1901, is one exception — by streamlining itself, it has become much smaller but remained competitive. Its contemporary rivals failed to do so and eventually faded away.

With a more nebulous mandate (providing public goods) than the profit motive and the ability to borrow indefinitely, big governments are even more at risk of becoming bloated and ineffectual over time than big companies. Furthermore, governments must aspire to function well for centuries rather than decades.

The only sort of organization, public or private, that can get fairly large without becoming increasingly impotent is the military, which cannot serve as a model for civilian purposes. In all other respects, big governments are never efficient ones; small government is a necessary means to an end.

One mistake George Bush could have easily avoided in 2005 and 2006 was failing to stand up to his own party’s fiscal wastefulness by vetoing bloated budgets. The stimulus bill of 2009 constitutes the biggest waste of taxpayer funds since the New Deal.

There is much inane carrying-on about how historic the new administration is. But it will be doomed to repeat history — a decades-long, disgraceful history of government bloat going back to FDR — if it goes down the same spendthrift path that the congressional Democrats have paved for it.

Reach columnist Russ Wung at opinion@dailyuw.com.

Liberal

By Chris Jordan


The Great Stimulus Battle of 2009 has — at least temporarily — come to an end. The final “compromise” version of the bill that emerged from negotiations between House and Senate leaders totaled roughly $796 billion, curiously smaller than both the original House and Senate versions.

So what was cut? In order to please the Republicans — who didn’t vote for the bill anyway — what kinds of horrible, wasteful, liberal, socialist spending programs were not included in the final version?

For one, President Obama’s middle-class tax cut was scaled back. Everyone knows that “middle-class tax cut” or “tax cut for 95 percent of Americans” is really code for “communism” or “redistribution,” while “corporate tax cut” or “tax cut for ExxonMobil” is simply good old conservative, free-market Reaganomics, right?

Billions of dollars for shovel-ready school construction and modernization projects were gutted, and thank God for that. Apparently, Republican fears that federal spending on school construction during these extraordinary times would somehow lead to a federal takeover of education curriculum were considered more important than actually creating jobs in the short term.

Finally, a $15,000 tax credit for home buyers purchasing a primary residence, which many experts agreed would have had a major impact on kick-starting the housing market, was removed.

While it is a great victory for the new president that the stimulus bill passed and contained basically what he originally said it should, Barack Obama would do well to take away a few lessons from this showdown.

Despite putting in more tax cuts than he wanted to, putting in less school construction money than he wanted to, less money for health care than he wanted to, less middle-class tax relief than he wanted to and more time and effort trying to win over Republicans than he probably wanted to, Obama was only able to persuade three out of the 219 GOP lawmakers in Washington, D.C. to vote with him. For all the president’s effort, that’s only a measly 1.4 percent of Republicans. He failed to convince the other 98.6 percent.

Let me put it this way: In order to make three Republican politicians happy, the president and congressional Democrats were forced to make the stimulus bill substantially less stimulating.

I’m all for bipartisanship and tackling big challenges together. I would love to see the two parties work together on issues like energy and climate change, where there is some agreement.

In this case, however, President Obama extended the olive branch to Republicans in Congress and sacrificed a lot. He got almost nothing in return. His administration wanted to be able to get close to 80 votes in the Senate and claim that its first major legislative victory was a grand, bipartisan effort. Early on in the process, it should have been clear that this was all a pipe dream. What Obama got was a weaker stimulus bill and a national narrative about how the votes were almost exactly on party lines. Despite the Democrats’ concessions, Republicans wanted it their way or the highway. They haven’t yet gotten used to what it means to be defeated handily in two straight elections. When you lose, you’re supposed to take what you can get, not demand everything you want.

Sometimes when you have such a strong majority in Congress, you simply have to go for what you think is the absolute best bill possible for the good of the country, even if it means winning zero percent of the Republicans instead of 1.4 percent. I would have much rather seen a stronger, trillion dollar bill with zero Republican votes than a somewhat stripped-down $800 billion bill with only three Republican votes.

Reach columnist Chris Jordan at opinion@dailyuw.com.

Moderate

By Katie Paff


As Obama prepares to sign the $787 billion economic stimulus package into law in Denver today, Capitol Hill seems inevitably headed toward a partisan showdown of sorts, which could have long-ranging future implications for both parties and the American people.

The colossal package passed without a single Republican vote in the House and only three in the Senate — the bare minimum to avoid a filibuster. Action was desperately needed, and economists across the political map reached a consensus that some kind of federal action on a historic level was necessary.

The Republicans’ strategy was carefully calculated, it seems — by universally opposing the highly popular president on such a crucial issue to most Americans, they hoped to avoid claiming any sort of responsibility for saving the economy, and instead placed the weight squarely on President Obama’s shoulders. Therefore, if the package yields an undesirable outcome such as inflation or much higher taxes, the Republican party can blame the Democrats and attempt to use it against them come election time. On the other hand, if Obama succeeds, the American people may realize that the GOP placed partisan games above the public interest, which could have long-term repercussions for the party and the conservative movement.

Effectively, the Republicans’ stubbornness and refusal to compromise on the stimulus package is making the Democrats look like champions of bipartisanship, which is just what they wanted. However, while they may have won the initial battle of partisanship, a long-term war lies ahead on the horizon. This week, Obama’s plan to help homeowners avoid foreclosure will take center stage, followed by an arduous attempt to repair the financial system and save struggling banks and Wall Street institutions. Later down the line, even more polarizing issues such as alternative energy, climate change and health care will need to be tackled.

What is deeply unfortunate is that the partisan battle only seems set to escalate from here. The fact is that the Democratic Party was unable to secure any Republican support while trying to broker the stimulus package, despite extending an olive branch and actively attempting to be bipartisan. Now that the deal has been closed, the stakes only seem higher because of the nature of the issues at hand.

Republican leaders still appear completely unwilling to compromise and seem determined to fight the president and the Democratic Party to the end, urging GOP members to staunchly vote on party lines, even though this is at odds with their districts. This is not only risky politically for the Republican Party, but harmful for the nation, which is hurting economically across the map, and not just on party lines. While politicians bicker on Capitol Hill, there are much more serious implications for Americans outside the Beltway. The GOP’s strategy is completely unsustainable.

As Obama signs the stimulus package, the GOP might want to think long and hard about the cost to the nation at large of waging such a partisan war, particularly as the voters who elected them into office lose their jobs, homes and savings at an alarming rate. Not only is this approach politically risky for future elections — especially if the Democrats are successful, painting the GOP as the stubborn bully — it also continues to erode the public’s trust in its elected officials and the American political system overall.

Too much is at stake for any more partisan tantrums.

Reach columnist Katie Paff at opinion@dailyuw.com.


1 Comments

#1 Greg R.
(Seattle, WA)
on February 23, 2009 at 4:51 p.m.

So why is big government bad?


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#1 Nick J.
(UW Campus)
on February 17, 2009 at 3:14 a.m.

First of all, your entire premise that Obama extended an olive branch to Republicans is a joke, because the Repubs were completely shut out of stimulus conference negotiations.

Secondly, if you add interest to the bill, it's price tag skyrockets to over $1.3 trillion dollars.

Thirdly, this bill was to create jobs, not to fund Democratic pet projects. $600 million to convert the federal auto fleet to hybrids? $150 million for the Smithsonian?

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=...

Finally, it's hard to imagine how are Congress could swiftly pass a bill through that not one member has read, but that is exactly what happened. No one read the bill, but since Obama said the world would end tomorrow (I thought he railed against Bush for fear-mongering?) if the bill wasn't passed, it got forced through in the most irresponsible and hasty way possible.

John Boehner on the House floor:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQb61v...

#2 Nick J.
(UW Campus)
on February 17, 2009 at 3:18 a.m.

* how OUR Congress.

#4 Nick J.
(UW Campus)
on February 17, 2009 at 10:11 a.m.

Really Chris? Really?

First article is from Jan. 19, BEFORE HE WAS IN OFFICE.

Second article is from Jan. 27. That was an early meeting, as far as the debate on the stimulus package goes. I was talking about the conference when debate was raging on FEBRUARY 10th.

http://www.humanevents.com/article.ph...

The third article is from January 6th, again BEFORE HE WAS IN OFFICE, and about a month before debate on the stimulus package was even in full swing.

You just make this way too easy. Good Lord.

#5 Hannah I.
(UW Campus)
on February 17, 2009 at 11:02 a.m.

"I would have much rather seen a stronger, trillion dollar bill with zero Republican votes than a somewhat stripped-down $800 billion bill with only three Republican votes."
If you had seen this, you would have seen a trillion dollar bill that didn't pass. The Dems do not have a super majority in the Senate and therefore needed each of the three Republican votes that they got.

#6 Chris J.
(UW Campus)
on February 17, 2009 at 12:45 p.m.

Nick, the fact is that he held several meetings with House Republicans to try to engage them. The level of tax cuts that was put into the bill was designed to attract Republicans. Republicans didn't get to get involved later because they indicated from the very start that they wanted tax cuts or bust. Many Democrats thought the bill should be 100% spending.

http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/m...

"McCain constructed his own stimulus package last week, which was about half the size of the roughly $800 billion proposed stimulus and consisted mostly of tax cuts. Offered on the Senate floor as an amendment, McCain’s plan failed to gain approval."

The source for the article you posted is "HumanEvents.com, Headquarters of the Conservative Underground." Are you kidding me?

Obama had constructive meetings with House Republicans...

http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/a...

#7 Chris J.
(UW Campus)
on February 17, 2009 at 12:58 p.m.

Hannah, I doubt that Senate Republicans could have held together their entire caucus to filibuster the recovery bill against a President with over a 60% approval rating when Congressional Republicans right now have a 19% approval according to Gallup. I think the Dems should have been willing to call their bluff on that if it meant a stronger bill that will do more for the economy.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/114670/Con...

#8 Nick J.
(UW Campus)
on February 17, 2009 at 10:12 p.m.

So because my source was Human Events, you immediately dismiss it as false?

Great argument!

#9 Nick J.
(UW Campus)
on February 17, 2009 at 10:17 p.m.

And you still haven't addressed all the pork in the bill.

Or is that not important?

#10 Jed B.
(UW Campus)
on February 17, 2009 at 10:36 p.m.

First of all, you can pick out little projects that may be more about spending than stimulus but for the most part it is a solid bill and shouldn't be shut down due to small technicalities.
Republicans were extended an olive branch but chose partisanship over helping the United States out of a recession.

Nick, Chris has a legitimate point about quoting Human Events. You know better than that. You might as well be quoting dailykos, redstate, or Rush Limbaugh.

Who the hell is the Republican Party to talk about bad spending? You come here acting like an expert economist and fiscal conservative when you probably supported Reagan and Bush spending policies, tax cuts for the rich, etc.
The fact is that government spending in infrastructure and to create jobs in the United States is what gets the economy moving again.
You had your 8 years. That is what got us into this shit in the first place. Get over it and give Obama's policies a chance.

Also, they only needed 50 votes to pass the bill. It is a simple majority. However, you do need a super majority (60) to close debate in the U.S. Senate. So the three Republicans are to thank for helping to close debate and pass this quickly, but I don't think the entire Republican caucus would have decided to filibuster anyway.

One last thing: there is a reason why John McCain didn't win the election.

#11 Kristin C.
(Seattle, WA)
on February 17, 2009 at 10:50 p.m.

Do the Republicans plan to refuse the pork they're receiving as part of the stimulus package that they voted against on principle?

#12 Russ W.
(Redmond, WA)
on February 18, 2009 at 2:59 a.m.

Do you really think pork is just thrown randomly at members? It's given to people who vote for the bills it's in.

#13 Nick J.
(UW Campus)
on February 18, 2009 at 6:19 a.m.

"Nick, Chris has a legitimate point about quoting Human Events. You know better than that. You might as well be quoting dailykos, redstate, or Rush Limbaugh."

Again, you're saying these sources never have factual information, which is wrong.

At any rate, House Repubs WERE shut out of stimulus conference negotiations, and only a few (you know who they are) Repubs got to be there. But since they were already on board with the bill, there really wasn't too much "debate."


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#1 Nick J.
(UW Campus)
on February 17, 2009 at 10:25 a.m.

"As Obama signs the stimulus package, the GOP might want to think long and hard about the cost to the nation at large of waging such a partisan war, particularly as the voters who elected them into office lose their jobs, homes and savings at an alarming rate."

Wait, what? The GOP might want to think long and hard about the cost to the nation? This is a $1.3 trillion bill that probably won't work, and you're blaming Repubs for being obstructionists? The Repubs were the ones who wanted to cut billions of dollars in Democratic pork from the bill, and instead focus on spending money on projects that would actually create jobs. The real cost to the nation is going to be a higher deficit that we're going to pass off to our kids.

The entire point of the Repubs obstructionism was that they wanted the bill to create more jobs, not because they merely wanted to oppose the Dems.

And I still can't believe you and Chris think the Dems were the ones who were tyring to be bi-partisan. That's just laughable.


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