By
Erinn Unger
April 14, 2008
Nobel Peace Prize winner and spiritual leader the Dalai Lama will answer students’ questions and receive an honorary doctorate from the University today as part of a series of events sponsored by the nonprofit organization Seeds of Compassion.
Tickets for the event, which is in Hec Edmundson Pavilion, are sold out.
The Chinese Students and Scholars Association (CSSA) met with President Mark Emmert and Vice Provost Ed Taylor to discuss their concerns about the politicization of his visit, which follows violence in the Dalai Lama’s birthplace of Tibet.
“It has become increasingly clear that the incidents in Lhasa were organized activities instigated by Tibetan separatists, with the intention of splitting China and undermining the Beijing Olympics,” the group wrote in an open letter to Emmert.
Assurances have been made by the UW administration that the Dalai Lama’s visit to campus will be apolitical.
“This isn’t a news conference and it’s not a seminar,” Emmert said in The Seattle Times.
UW officials chose 14 students to ask the Dalai Lama questions on Monday. None of those questions, which were submitted last month, are political in nature.
Despite these assurances, a group of concerned students are planning to march to Hec Ed in protest today.
The CSSA is not involved in this protest and CSSA never engages in any political activities, said Dawei Liu, the association’s president.
The Chinese Student Association has also decided not to join the protest.
“We don’t want to be either anti- or pro- ‘Free Tibet.’ … It’s such a sensitive matter, being Chinese-American,” said Wing Wong, the CSA ASUW senator.
When the Dalai Lama arrived in Seattle Thursday, he reiterated his support for non-violent demonstrations for Tibet. He supports further autonomy for Tibet and open dialogue with the Chinese government, according to the Times.
Despite efforts to depoliticize the Dalai Lama’s visit to Seattle, the growing conflict in Tibet and clashes over the Olympic torch have cast a shadow over the proceedings.
A plane flew a banner above Qwest Field Saturday reading, “Dalai Lama pls stop supporting riots.” A celebration of compassion, attended by more than 50,000 people and including music, dancing and a speech by the Dalai Lama, was underway below.
Tibet has been under China’s control since 1959. Violence resulting from demonstrations against the Chinese government began in mid-March. The number of casualties are unknown, ranging from the Chinese government’s count of about 13 to many more, according to the BBC. China asserts that the Dalai Lama has encouraged the violence in Tibet. He denies this, according to the Times.
China’s position in the spotlight, as it prepares for the 2008 Olympics, has catalyzed further demonstrations for Tibetan independence around the world, including protests that have disrupted the carrying of the Olympic torch.
Jimmy Lal, student at the UW, said it is difficult to frame anything as apolitical. He will be attending the event simply to learn more about compassion.
“The Seeds of Compassion gathering is meant for everyone to cultivate compassion in their lives,” he said.
[Reach reporter Erinn Unger at news@thedaily.washington.edu.]
472 Comments
#1 Richard
on April 14, 2008 at 10:38 a.m.(Location Unknown | Unverified Name)
It sure is convenient for China to call for depoliticization of the Olympics when they end up on the short end of the stick. Let's not forget that China has consistently used the Olympics for their own political interests. Since the 1956 Olympics, China has boycotted the Olympics if Taiwan was allowed to enter the games under anything other than "Chinese Taipei." To this day, Taiwan is required to enter under that China-imposed name, and also disallowed the privilege of waving their own national flag in the games. So before advocates for the Beijing Olympics get upset over the politicization of the Olympics, perhaps they should also protest China's bullying tactics on the IOC and hosting countries in regards to the entry of Taiwan in the games.
#2 Zhongxiang Zhao
on April 14, 2008 at 1:33 p.m.(UW Campus | Unverified Name)
Tibet has been under China’s control since 1959.
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This statement is totally wrong!
Th fact is Tibet has been a part of China for over 700 years.
#3 amanda
on April 14, 2008 at 2:31 p.m.(UW Campus | Unverified Name)
This is so rediculous, Tibet and Taiwan have both been part of China since forever. How would it sound if Florida wanted to be indepenent and wanted to hold the olympics as a separate nation away from the US and wave their "national" flag? Sounds like BS.
#4 fff
on April 14, 2008 at 2:55 p.m.(UW Campus | Unverified Name)
It's a little more complicated than saying Tibet has been part of China "since forever" and justifying that 700 year figure requires turning your head just so and squinting while looking at the facts.
#5 Richard
on April 14, 2008 at 5:22 p.m.(UW Campus | Unverified Name)
In response to Amanda:
I will reiterate my point which you seemed to miss. My point was that it is hypocritical for China to be calling for depoliticization of the Olympics when they have repeatedly used the Olympics for political manners in the past. Since Taiwan is a touchy issue, take the 1980 Olympics for example. In 1980, China joined in the boycott of the Olympics in the Soviet Union to protest against their invasion of Afghanistan.
#6 Yingtao
on April 14, 2008 at 7:03 p.m.(UW Campus | Unverified Name)
I really don't know why americans so believed in Dalai's statement...... rediculous enough...... but one day the truth will be told, and everyone will be sorry for their action for now!
#7 Jessica
on April 14, 2008 at 8:36 p.m.(Seattle, WA | Unverified Name)
In response to Amanda,
How can u justify "Tibet and Taiwan have both been part of China since forever"? Examining history in a long term perspective, it is pretty clear that the construction of "nation state" has never been static.
#8 Global Pest Control
on April 15, 2008 at 6:35 a.m.(Bellevue, WA | Unverified Name)
There is no point in arguing with ignorant Chinese who were born under the Communist regime. Amanda (Ping) and Jessica (Pong), may not have had the luxury of living in a free world and so their view of the rest of the world will be slanted.
What are Ping and Pong talking about...700 years? From what history are they basing this claim? Tibetans have their own language which is read left to right with only 30 characters. The religion, Buddhism which comes from India. BTW, 99% of the Tibetan population have 20/20 vision.
If Tibet was part of China, why are there so few Tibetans who speak Chinese? Since the 1959 invasion, China has killed over 1.2 million Tibetans. China has consistently distorted the truth about Tibet and its time for you Chinese to start educating yourselves about Tibet and join the rest of the world in protesting the 2008 Olympics!
#9 Yuan
on April 15, 2008 at 11:07 a.m.(UW Campus | Unverified Name)
Dalai mentioned yesterday "I told him (a black person), 'At birth we are the same,' "
Do you understand Dalai was not the same at birth, as you
and I? Do you know how he came from? Do you know the Tibet pilitical (slavery) system?
Do you know his relation with 13th Dalai Lama? He was lying because he was not
the same at birth, that was why he became 14th Dalai Lama, not you and me, nor
other Lama.
Do you know Dalai was paid from CIA? so he is not a monk, he is a spy or for politics.
You are welcome to reply me if you have more questions.
Yuan
#10 Dalai was paid 186000 a year salary from CIA
on April 15, 2008 at 11:43 a.m.(UW Campus | Unverified Name)
Dalai was paid 186000 a year salary from CIA.
Please read New York Times and Los Angeles Times, Oct 1, and Sept. 15, 1998. It told you how much Dalai salary paid and his group supported by CIA.
In fact, Dalai was used as a tool to anit-China by Uncle Sam since 1950's.
I think most of American do not know this truth.
I think Uncle Sam was and is wasting
the money from Taxpayers to support such a monk.
China is not the former soviet union, nor the Yugoslavia !!
The more the western countries anti-China, the more chinese united, it was proofed before, and will be proofed in the future !!
#11 John Doe
on April 15, 2008 at 2:31 p.m.(Bellevue, WA | Unverified Name)
Well I don't trust a people who eat cats & dogs, & leave baby girl fetuses lying on the roadside. WTF!
#12 mao wow
on April 15, 2008 at 2:35 p.m.(Bellevue, WA | Unverified Name)
China will soon be your master, stupid Americans! They're buying up everything before your eyes & the Bush administration is letting it happen.
Whatever happens to the West is their own fault... The Chinese are a sneaky bunch.
#13 Yingtao
on April 15, 2008 at 2:52 p.m.(Bellevue, WA | Unverified Name)
Forget my earlier comment, I hadn't taken my medication today. I do have to say that a typical Chinese wouldn't know what Compassion means because we were raised by a pack of wolves called the Gang of Four. Uncle Mao paid us to keep posting stupid comments on the internet. In fact there are 5,000 of us who around the clock post junk on the internet. Pung's Dung
#14 Global Pest Control
on April 15, 2008 at 3:05 p.m.(Bellevue, WA | Unverified Name)
Hey Yuan,
"Do you know how he came from is bad English" also pilitical is spelled, "political". I think you need to go back to school and learn some English. Perhaps cutting down on some of that dog meat might help your brain function also.
#15 Linda Mah
on April 15, 2008 at 3:26 p.m.(Bellevue, WA | Unverified Name)
Yingtao, stop embarrassing us Chinese and learn some proper English, please. God!
#16 Joe McNeely
on April 15, 2008 at 3:28 p.m.(Bellevue, WA | Unverified Name)
Yeah, piss off and learn English "Yingtao" or get the f--- out of here.
#17 Yingtao
on April 15, 2008 at 3:34 p.m.(Bellevue, WA | Unverified Name)
You don't tell me to f---! You say bad word! You crossed the rine now.
#18 tenzin
on April 15, 2008 at 3:50 p.m.(Thousand Oaks, CA | Unverified Name)
Dalai lama was son of a poor peasant family who is now a leading non-violence leader respected by the world community! this is a fact that a man has come a long way and his message is needed for all of us - Chinese, Americans, Tibetans, Indians, Arabs, across the world - to be a persona with "warm hearted", a compassionate person who can show love and respect to others! This is his core message and I'm saddened to hear how our Chinese brothers and sisters minds are twisted by Communist Regime's order. There's nothing to be sacred of this man who doesn't want independence but to live under Chinese nation but with self determination, be able to practice and preserve Tibetan religion, language, culture and give control to CHina in foreign matters. This is not too mucht to ask?? Young students of China, please be more open minded?? We respect you but you must respect us Tibetans, not consider as barbaric like the gov't says, and treat us second class citizens in our own land.
#19 To: John Doe
on April 15, 2008 at 5:31 p.m.(UW Campus | Unverified Name)
Do you trust American killed thousands thousands of native Indians ?
Do you trust American killed thousands thousands of civilians in Iraq ?
These are truth or lie?
I think it is a shame for American to invade Iraq.
#20 To: tenzin
on April 15, 2008 at 5:40 p.m.(UW Campus | Unverified Name)
Do you know your hero, Dalai Lama, works for CIA?
Do you recall how he became 14th Dalai Lama, not your grandfather (became 14th Dalai Lama)?
Dalai is at most a tool of Uncle Sam to anti-China. That way why CIA give him the money.
You are lying that "Tibetan were treated as second-class citizen", Tibetan have many preference in China, even Dalai Lama admitted this in his biograph and books.
I think you are midleading people here.
Remember that, it was people's liberation army librated your grandparents from the slavery system of Dalai, so that you have the chance to go to school and even study overseas. Otherwise, maybe you are still a slave.
#21 tenzin
on April 15, 2008 at 6:46 p.m.(Thousand Oaks, CA | Unverified Name)
#22 Tenzin
on April 15, 2008 at 6:48 p.m.(Thousand Oaks, CA | Unverified Name)
To answer your question!
"Do you know your hero, Dalai Lama, works for CIA?"
This is the most absurd thing you can say about the Dalai Lama. I've met with Ken Knaus the writer of CIA: Shadow Circus, you must read his book completely before making accusations at Dalai Lama.. besides what does this have to do with Tibet right now??
"Do you recall how he became 14th Dalai Lama, not your grandfather (became 14th Dalai Lama)?"
I don't know what you exactly mean here, but if you are saying that my grandfather is not 14th dalai lama - your right! Dalai Lama is infact my father, mother and every thing to us Tibetans, that's why Tibetans in Tibet eventhough they haven't see Dalai Lama for over 50 yrs, people still revere him in the heart of every Tibetan! China can take away everything - flesh and bone- but they cannot take away the love and respect for the Dalai Lama. That is why China is scared, they can't brainwash Tibetans devotion to their one and only leader, the Dalai Lama.
"Dalai is at most a tool of Uncle Sam to anti-China. That way why CIA give him the money."
It is totally untrue, and has again nothing to do with Tibet at the moment. This is rethoric direct from the Chinese gov't's propaganda.
"You are lying that "Tibetan were treated as second-class citizen", Tibetan have many preference in China, even Dalai Lama admitted this in his biograph and books."
Yes you are right in way Tibetans do have minority special cases, where they can attend school and college in mainland without fee. But this is only handful cases, and there's strict rules in them, Tibetans can't choose the major they want, like math, science etc. So they end up studying Tibetan major. Many Tibetans don't even graduate because they have poor education at early age. And even if you graduate, Tibetans face enormous racial discrimination at getting decent jobs so they return back to Tibet. Tibetans who have gov't jobs or acts as Beijing's puppet will have upper hand in getting their kids these special status. Some students are actually Chinese and claim that their great grandfather or mother is a Tibet so then they are given these rights. So in education, Tibetans have to learn Chinese if they want to excel and most end up loosing their own Tibetan language culture which what the Chinese gov't wants. There's no incentive to learn Tibetan at all! - continue next
#23 Tenzin
on April 15, 2008 at 6:54 p.m.(Thousand Oaks, CA | Unverified Name)
Second part...
"I think you are midleading people here."
Misleading??? I'm sorry but I say it from my own personal experience of being a Tibetan refugee, being in Tibet speaking to my family members that i've never seen before and found them to have horific tales about the Communist "peaceful" liberation of Tibet! Every Tibetan I met has a family members or loved ones who have been killed directly as a result from the brutal occupation of Tibet. They are so many untold stories that China has hidden behind the iron curtain! Soo the truth will come out!
I'm a Tibetan and proud to be a Tibetan American. How can I not be proud, as we have a leader that is respected across the globe from every race and culture. Dalai Lama is gift to this world, he represents what a small yet valuable Tibetan culture can contribute to the greater humanity, to the world family.
"Remember that, it was people's liberation army librated your grandparents from the slavery system of Dalai, so that you have the chance to go to school and even study overseas. Otherwise, maybe you are still a slave."
Sorry I wasn't born in Tibet, born in India to family who barely escaped from Tibet when your "peaceful" liberation killed thousands of people exactly 49 yrs ago in Lhasa. Under the Dalai Lama's Democratic system and the Gov't of India's help, we have received far better education than what our brothers and sisters in Tibet - most are still not getting any education at all inside Tibet. Go to rural areas, there's no school even if they do there's no teachers who are qualified to teach. Just young barely high school graduates,taught mostly in Chinese too.
I hope you'll get a better perspective now. Please don't just say what your gov't tells you, you must look deeper, just like what your leader Deng Xiaoping said in famous quote, "Seek Truth from Facts"! This is what must be done in Tibet by every Chinese citizens and gov't. Truth is all we have Tibetans, we don't have 1/3 of the worlds population, we don't have trillion dollars army force, we don't have even 1 millino army force? What we have is the TRUTH! THat is our only weapon! Seek the truth...
#24 Linda Mah
on April 15, 2008 at 7:13 p.m.(Bellevue, WA | Unverified Name)
Hi Tenzin, as a Chinese born citizen now living in the West, I sympathize with the Tibetan plight and am glad that I have learned the true history of Tibet. I am no longer a blind Communist government follower, and have free access to the 'inconvenient' truth as the Communist government would see it.
Now that I'm no longer a paid government protester against anti-government groups, I have caught people taking my photos in various places and I believe them to be spies for the government. Because I am now living in a free country, I am not worried for my personal safety however I do still look over my shoulder from time to time...
#25 Moral High Ground
on April 15, 2008 at 7:28 p.m.(Bellevue, WA | Unverified Name)
Americans thought they have the moral hight ground when it comes to Tibet, while the truth is they almost wiped out the native Americans to advance their so-called civilization, at least the Chinese are not saying that: a good Tibetan is a dead Tibetan, like the Americans do. Ok if that was the past and had nothing to do with it, and Native Americans are boozing on their casino money in the deep mountains of the Americas, with not hope whatsoever to get back their land, let's talk about the present. Did the America ever find any WMD in Iraq where the war has claimed tens of thousands of innocents and little over 4000 US soliders(from not so rich families), where's the bloody compassion for those people? where the hell your morons on this board are doing about it? your suckers are more likely engage in weird sex in a foreign land and be accused of murders, what a surprise, what a bunch of hypocrites!
#26 what is the truth
on April 15, 2008 at 7:34 p.m.(Bellevue, WA | Unverified Name)
I know that some Han Chinese die for saving Tibetans in snow storms, should have left them there died? What the hell is cultural genocide? Not able to learn tibetans at school? I don't see Spanish being official language in schools in Texas, where the US stole from Mexico. Give me a break!
#27 Sue
on April 15, 2008 at 7:36 p.m.(Bakersfield, CA | Unverified Name)
Tibet is a done-deal. Even westerns try to pour fuel onto fire. Tibet will be part of China forever.
#28 To Linda Mah
on April 15, 2008 at 7:36 p.m.(Thousand Oaks, CA | Unverified Name)
Thank you, I know you are brave to come out to speak against the CCP gov't. This is the courage we need among our Chinese brothers and sisters. We know that there's far many more support for tibet within the CHinese community and they all face the same ordeal, to risk being labelled or even more seriously not being allowed to return to China to see their own family members. So we understand your situation and we are extremely appreciative of your support and understanding. We hope to open more minds and heart to the true situation of Tibet. Afterall, we will be neighbors no matter what and one must learn to live with understanding and respect for each others culture inorder to have a harmonious society. WE know there are many mainland Chinese spies this is absolutely true.. so please becareful.
tenzin
#29 Abraham lincoln
on April 15, 2008 at 7:37 p.m.(Bellevue, WA | Unverified Name)
I feel sorry to those Americans who paid their respect to Dalai. If you ex president, Abraham lincoln, knows that you soluted to a biggest slave-owner in the history, he will feel what he have been done is meaningless.
Another thing i want tell you guys is Dalai's administration is full of useless monks and slave-owners. What they care about is all of their right to drive their slaves. In 1949, china gov recovered control to Tibet, however Dalai stayed until 1959. Why? if he really wanted to fight for his land, he should left in 1949, not 1959. The reason is, in 1959, china gov tried to free all the tibet slaves, just like what Abraham lincoln did serveral hundreds years ago.
#30 no id
on April 15, 2008 at 7:38 p.m.(Puyallup, WA | Unverified Name)
In case you don't know, Dalai Lama's annual payment from the CIA was $186,000 in year 60's. Now it is so much more.
"Throughout the 1960s, the Tibetan exile community was secretly pocketing $1.7 million a year from the CIA, according to documents released by the State Department in 1998. Once this fact was publicized, the Dalai Lama’s organization itself issued a statement admitting that it had received millions of dollars from the CIA during the 1960s to send armed squads of exiles into Tibet to undermine the Maoist revolution. The Dalai Lama's annual payment from the CIA was $186,000. Indian intelligence also financed both him and other Tibetan exiles. He has refused to say whether he or his brothers worked for the CIA. The agency has also declined to comment.44"
The source of the above statement:
http://www.michaelparenti.org/Tibet.html
http://www.state.gov/www/about_state/...
#31 Strike
on April 15, 2008 at 7:39 p.m.(None, Singapore | Unverified Name)
Taiwan and Tibet are both internal affaires of China and Chinese people,other country has no right in telling China what to do, stop interfering other country by putting your finger on it.
#32 CCP's True color
on April 15, 2008 at 7:43 p.m.(Brampton, Canada | Unverified Name)
'Moral High Ground' shows a ccp henchman's true color -- curse and BS is their only argument.
I, a Han Chinese, had once told a born American friend that CCP followers are overrepresented in US because they are usually fattened by that rogue regime. American need to figure out some way to winnow out CCP thugs from this sacred land of freedom.
#33 Jack
on April 15, 2008 at 7:43 p.m.(Menomonee Falls, WI | Unverified Name)
In response to #8 Global Pest Control:
You may not know that there are 56 ethnics in China, speakinng 53 different languages. Most of them had their own goernment during some period of the 5000 year history of Hcina and now are under one name -- Chinese. Zang -- Tibetan in Chinese -- is Tibetan is the 9th biggest group among them. The fact Tibet people have their own language does not support your argument.
You need to re-inspect the #s you quoted -- in the year of 1950 the population of Tibet was about one million; In the year os 2003 it is 2.7million of which 2.5 million were Tibetans. If the central government killed 1.2 million during this period, they got to Fxxk like crazy to generate that kind of increase. you do the figure. Don't forget there is a large portion of Tibetans are monks who are not allowed to re-produce.
#34 Sam
on April 15, 2008 at 7:43 p.m.(Littleton, MA | Unverified Name)
I read most of those Tibetan who exiled 1959 were slave masters in Tibet.
Is that true?
And I also read Dalai Lama himself applied to take part in the Communist Party of China in 1956 but refused.Is that true?
#35 Not a Dog eater
on April 15, 2008 at 7:46 p.m.(Bellevue, WA | Unverified Name)
We don't eat dogs, cats, whatever your deranged mind is thinking about, some minority might do that, you can not say that Chinese eat dogs and cats. However, even if we do, don't you eat cows, pigs, etc, you guys also do unspeakable things to dogs in the US, what's hell are you trying to say? This kind of mentality is exactly cultural genocide, if you are allowed in Tibet, you'd be the first to commit cultural genocide, whatever that means, stupid morons. In any case, if you are so against Chinese in the Tibet issue, go there and find out what it is like exactly, bet your sorry ass is scared, haha.
#36 To Sam
on April 15, 2008 at 7:48 p.m.(Bellevue, WA | Unverified Name)
It is true, the da lai la ma himself signed with mao the treaty. (also, learn about the treaty that gave texas to the US), and he applied to join the commie party too! he's just a polititian with a smilly face in a robe.
#37 TibetIssue08@gmail.com
on April 15, 2008 at 7:50 p.m.(UW Campus | Unverified Name)
Richard: Yes, you are right. Indeed the Olympic has been politicazed many times since the War II and the Cold War. Actually, not everyone feels so enthusiastic about this event in China. At least, I feel that every country should make its own decision: to go or not. However, the violence of Tibetan Separatists used against the disabled torch holder in Paris is unforgivable and way down the bottom line. Let me make an analogy: if you are throwing a party and everyone is invited; It's Ok they don't come over, but not OK if they mess up the preparation.
#38 To Sue , Moral High Ground, What is the truth!
on April 15, 2008 at 7:50 p.m.(Thousand Oaks, CA | Unverified Name)
You always seem to point at USA for their past actions to justify what your Chinese gov't is doing inside Tibet. Yes we all know that US doesn't have a clean record, as matter of fact no country would have it. IT is absolutely horrible of what happenned to native americans. We agree on that, but the truth of it is that we can argue and we can speak up for these crimes that US did to the native american or mexicans. WE are in the 21st century now, and to be a superpower nation that China wants to be, you have a responsibility live up to some basic principles of freedom of speech and religion, basic universal human rights???
I'm sure the way you bark against the US gov't (might i add that you are here enjoying the beauty of freedom of speech), cannot be tolarated at all in China. YOu could be jailed for speaking anything political! WHat happend to those brave sons and daughters of China on june 4th 1989 at Tiannamen square??? They were asking from peaceful way for freedom, a democratic society and what do they get? Killed ruthlessly in front of the world eyes! For China to gain repect from International community, they must respect basic rights and freedom. China is a great nation with long history. But it needs to be more open and transparent to the world citizens. This where Dalai Lama is a key for China to gain respect internationally, to solve Tibet issue in genuine way may even earn a noble peace prize for Hu Jintao, can you imagine??? tenzin
#39 Tibetan Language
on April 15, 2008 at 7:52 p.m.(Bellevue, WA | Unverified Name)
The Tibetan language and Mandarin is in the same language family. Unlike Korean and Japanese, Mandarin and Tibetan do belong in the same language family, and that's why Tibetan sounds very much like northern Han Chinese. Also, buddism came from India and then to China proper, and then to Tibet, the history between Tibet and China proper goes back much longer than the whole history of the united states. where do you ingorant bastards get your education?
#40 ccp thug lies
on April 15, 2008 at 7:55 p.m.(Brampton, Canada | Unverified Name)
One interesting thing is that all the people who argue for CCP copied their argument directly from ccp's propaganda though they insist they are not brainwashed. They never questioned if CCP presented the basic truth even though CCP have a long and blatant history lying.
They just blindly swallowed ccp's propaganda rod, sink and hook and brazenly claim they are not brainwashed.
#41 Jack
on April 15, 2008 at 7:56 p.m.(Menomonee Falls, WI | Unverified Name)
Here is the link shows CIA financing Dalai group
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage...
World News Briefs; Dalai Lama Group Says It Got Money From C.I.A.
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Published: October 2, 1998
The Dalai Lama's administration acknowledged today that it received $1.7 million a year in the 1960's from the Central Intelligence Agency, but denied reports that the Tibetan leader benefited personally from an annual subsidy of $180,000.
The money allocated for the resistance movement was spent on training volunteers and paying for guerrilla operations against the Chinese, the Tibetan government-in-exile said in a statement. It added that the subsidy earmarked for the Dalai Lama was spent on setting up offices in Geneva and New York and on international lobbying.
The Dalai Lama, 63, a revered spiritual leader both in his Himalayan homeland and in Western nations, fled Tibet in 1959 after a failed uprising against a Chinese military occupation, which began in 1950.
The decade-long covert program to support the Tibetan independence movement was part of the C.I.A.'s worldwide effort to undermine Communist governments, particularly in the Soviet Union and China.
#42 TO JOHN DOE
on April 15, 2008 at 8 p.m.(Bellevue, WA | Unverified Name)
Well I don't trust a people who eat cats & dogs, & leave baby girl fetuses lying on the roadside. WTF!
Any proof? At least, we don't microwave baby:
http://www.kirotv.com/news/13331818/d...
#43 Respect is reciprocal
on April 15, 2008 at 8:01 p.m.(Bellevue, WA | Unverified Name)
Do not expect that one can just point fingers at other people where they have blood on their own hands. China indeed has some problems still, but countries evolve and make progress not in just one day, you can give productive suggestions, rather than derogatory insults. Didn't you guys practice: Do not do upon others what you don't want to be done to you? You would negotiate with your neighbour about disbute instead of aiming a weapon at him right? Same goes between countries, the US and the west has no right in pointing fingers at China, real changes come from within, for those who presume that Chinese can not protest and will be put in jail nowadays, they should see the news today of teachers protesting the goverment in Sichuan province about living standards. China IS making progress, and hijacking the olympics like the dalailama and co are doing can only jeopardise their cause.
#44 So What
on April 15, 2008 at 8:05 p.m.(Brampton, Canada | Unverified Name)
"Dalai Lama Group Says It Got Money From C.I.A."
Can this justify CCP's killing of Tibetans? US have helped China to resist Japanese in WWII, does this justify Japanese occupation of China?
Regretfully, US didn't endeavor more effort on this just cause.
#45 to Tibetan Language..
on April 15, 2008 at 8:05 p.m.(Thousand Oaks, CA | Unverified Name)
More details here:
http://www.uoregon.edu/~delancey/tb.html
#46 CCP what?
on April 15, 2008 at 8:06 p.m.(Bellevue, WA | Unverified Name)
for the stupid moron who mix CCP and ordinary Chinese should go to a corner and suck yourself, most Chinese do not like the commie govonment, but when it comes to the integrity of the country, the goveronment has to listen to the masses. And what is your fasination with the CCP? nowadays both China and the US are run by those few cooperates, they are becoming more and more alike. You are living in the past stupid!
#47 to So What
on April 15, 2008 at 8:09 p.m.(Bellevue, WA | Unverified Name)
who verified that millions of Tibetans got killed since 59? somebody grabed a figure from their ass? And you just swallow whatever if fed from CNN? go to tibet and find out yourself, now that the tibetan thugs are back home and the streets are safe again.
#48 Fishingbear - To my Tibetan Brothers and Sisters
on April 15, 2008 at 8:10 p.m.(Menomonee Falls, WI | Unverified Name)
Please check out:
Tibet Diary - award winning video
http://video.google.com/videoplay?doc...
Behind the anti-China Olympic Campaign
http://www.workers.org/2008/world/ant...
Repression in Exile
http://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/no...
Eye Witness of the riot from western tourists
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main....
How We Must Deal With The Worst Crisis in History
http://www.larouchepac.com/news/2008/...
Please tell me why Dalai Lama didn't denounce the Tibet Youth Congress which promotes Tibetan Independence at ANY costs.
Let's work together to defend peace. Thank you.
#49 Yes, That's why
on April 15, 2008 at 8:12 p.m.(Brampton, Canada | Unverified Name)
"Didn't you guys practice: Do not do upon others what you don't want to be done to you?"
Yes, That's why we believe No Chinese enjoys being oppressed and mercilessly exploited by CCP.
#50 John Doe
on April 15, 2008 at 8:12 p.m.(Bellevue, WA | Unverified Name)
http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/featu...
They still eat dogs... this is one of many links to prove it. They also eat monkey brains while the monkey is still alive - imagine a monkey tied up underneath a table, with their head placed directly underneath a hole in a table, and having their head cut open!
One Chinese person told me once that they will eat anything with wings and legs, except for tables and airplanes.
I just don't know if they are the best host for the Olympics...
#51 to John Doe
on April 15, 2008 at 8:16 p.m.(Bellevue, WA | Unverified Name)
Don't try to gross people out, WE do NOT each monkeys, a few people may do that, just like a few americans practice eating humans too. Do not try to smear Chinese as if it is a routine ritual, it is NOT, period!
#52 I am sorry for Americans
on April 15, 2008 at 8:17 p.m.(Seattle, WA | Unverified Name)
I am sorry for Americans, because they paid Dala huge amount of Money, trying to split China. They have been trying for many years, but end up with nothing. Tibet is still in China. Uncle sam wasted the money from taxpayers. In fact, there are still so many poor Americans, why spend that money on Dalai?
China is not the former soviet union, nor Yugoslavia!
#53 Abraham Lincoln
on April 15, 2008 at 8:17 p.m.(Bellevue, WA | Unverified Name)
Anybody if you paid respect to Dalai, you automatically lose the moral highland to blame Communist Party, since Dalai's history and tibet's slave system under his control is much much eviler than any other systems over the world.
#54 Global Pest Control
on April 15, 2008 at 8:18 p.m.(Bellevue, WA | Unverified Name)
Jack or Ping or whatever your name is...
I think you need to re-evaluate your data. If Tibet's population was one million then there would be no Tibetans left since 1959; since China killed over 1.2 million Tibetans. Perhaps your claim seems legitimate only because the PRC has a tendency to distort the facts as well as rewriting history...even their own history. China has redrawn Tibet's map to 1/2 its size...look at any map drawn prior to 1959. Just because you change the history of Tibet to suit your needs; it doesn't mean its true.
By the way, why don't you Chinese go play with yourself in a corner somewhere rather than play with history....it will be more pleasurable...masturbate like HELL...if you're allowed to do so! Just don't reproduce because the Global Pest Control is now in force.
#55 google the book title "orphans of the cold war"
on April 15, 2008 at 8:23 p.m.(Seattle, WA | Unverified Name)
I just searched the book title "orphans of the cold war" in google.
It did show that CIA funded Dalai, training troops, spies, weapons...
CIA was real dirty by doing this.
So, Dalai did work for CIA, since he received salary from CIA, 186000/year salary, oh man, that was more than the salary of a full professor at UW.
So, UW should have Dalai as full professor, not just gave him an degree. I feel sorry for Dalai, he should be given a professorship.
#56 to GPC
on April 15, 2008 at 8:25 p.m.(Bellevue, WA | Unverified Name)
You are just a parote who got fed gabage over the years, whever the hell do you get the figure of 1.2 million Tibetans killed? The rule of Tibet is just as legit as US ruling over Texas, no more no less, the Da Lai La Ma himself signed the treaty. You are just a ignorant moron who's a wanker himself.
#57 Dave Ying
on April 15, 2008 at 8:25 p.m.(Bellevue, WA | Unverified Name)
The Chinese govermint save Chinese from a bad futur, so we have good presint. Why people say we dont have freedoms? Our leeder, Hu, is grate leeder like the grate deer leeder Kim Jong of North Korea. Long liv Hu and Kim and Mao!
Go away you haters. If you in China, you be die!
#58 american dreamer
on April 15, 2008 at 8:30 p.m.(Bellevue, WA | Unverified Name)
know yourselves
http://youtube.com/watch?v=5ekX4CmoVB...
#59 what? Dalai paid by CIA?
on April 15, 2008 at 8:31 p.m.(Seattle, WA | Unverified Name)
what? I can not believe it, Dalai received salary from CIA, 186000/year. I have to pay my student loan for many years. I have no money for my textbook.
#60 another try
on April 15, 2008 at 8:31 p.m.(Bellevue, WA | Unverified Name)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=5ekX4CmoVB
s&feature=related
#61 Fishingbear - To my Tibetan Brothers and Sisters
on April 15, 2008 at 8:32 p.m.(Menomonee Falls, WI | Unverified Name)
Please watch this:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?doc...
http://www.tibetanyouthcongress.org/a...
How could you call us "Chinese brothers and sisters" when a third of the Tibetans in exile are trying to kill us? There are probably 100,000 Tibetans outside of China, TYC claims 30,000 members.
#62 I believe CIA pays Dalai more than 1960's
on April 15, 2008 at 8:33 p.m.(Seattle, WA | Unverified Name)
I believe CIA pays Dalai more than it did in 1960's.
It is time for Uncle Sam remove his dirty hands from Tibet!
#63 brainwashedamericans
on April 15, 2008 at 8:36 p.m.(Bellevue, WA | Unverified Name)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=-SX3f2KmOi...
#64 stupid americans?
on April 15, 2008 at 8:37 p.m.(Bellevue, WA | Unverified Name)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=C6r1IcY1pv...
#65 Americans is NOT stupid
on April 15, 2008 at 8:41 p.m.(Bellevue, WA | Unverified Name)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=WALIARHHLI...
I'm surprised that someone here does have a map.
#66 To #56
on April 15, 2008 at 8:42 p.m.(Bellevue, WA | Unverified Name)
If Tibet was a part of China, you half-wit, then there would be no need for a treaty, right??!
... If you intend to continue with your asinine claims then at least learn the English language, for God's sake.
By the way, what the hell is a "parote"? Thanks for the laughs!!
Global Pest Control
#67 who should we invade next
on April 15, 2008 at 8:42 p.m.(Bellevue, WA | Unverified Name)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Hp4iI59BfpQ
#68 to 66
on April 15, 2008 at 8:45 p.m.(Bellevue, WA | Unverified Name)
just like the treaty sign for Texas you stupid moron who can't put 1 and 1 together. if you laugh at my ability to write in english, at least i am humble enough to try, what language are you using, let me see: is it English or is it American?
#69 To #65
on April 15, 2008 at 8:47 p.m.(Bellevue, WA | Unverified Name)
You right! They IS stupid.
#70 Americans are NOT stupid
on April 15, 2008 at 8:49 p.m.(Bellevue, WA | Unverified Name)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZaN6Rx8X6_...
For those of you who actually has a map, do you know where tibet is?
mmm, i wonder why he's wearing shade? freedom america, my ass!
#71 Soo-Yi Wang
on April 15, 2008 at 8:51 p.m.(Bellevue, WA | Unverified Name)
Dear Linda mah, i am very desturbed by you comment about communist China! We the Republic are not blind! we give all people chance. tibetan now are much more happy then in 1950. we help them a lot. they are finally reunite with the rest of our chinese brother and sister. so stop sympathizing with other tibetan because they are more better taken care of than you! also, we not spy! we give tibetan privacy and security along with freedom of opinion! china is a fee country! tibet always a part of china! so i suggest stop betraying you homeland! shame on you! yingtao is much more true chinese then you!
Soo-Yi
#72 Is BinLaDin real?
on April 15, 2008 at 8:55 p.m.(Bellevue, WA | Unverified Name)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Y1-Sm-nBegQ
#73 wipe your own ass first
on April 15, 2008 at 8:57 p.m.(Bellevue, WA | Unverified Name)
http://www.time.com/time/world/articl...
#74 Who'sEvil
on April 15, 2008 at 8:59 p.m.(Bellevue, WA | Unverified Name)
http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publi...
#75 did da lai lie?
on April 15, 2008 at 9:01 p.m.(Bellevue, WA | Unverified Name)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=h8FMNtTw24o
#76 To #68
on April 15, 2008 at 9:02 p.m.(Bellevue, WA | Unverified Name)
HA HA HA! That's for me to know and for you to find out...
I'm having a jolly good time here, and can write in both "English" and "American"; which is more than I can say for you! Your writing has a slight slant to it, wouldn't you say?
Now, with my stiff upper lip, this Wanker is going to shove off and I eagerly await your next slimy reply, Good-bye my fellow Wanker...You Bloody, Horny Bastard!
Global Pest Control
#77 to 66#
on April 15, 2008 at 9:02 p.m.(Menomonee Falls, WI | Unverified Name)
Read this - treaty between US and Hawaii:
http://www.hawaii-nation.org/treaty18...
Even a marriage certificate is a treaty!
#78 what tibet was like
on April 15, 2008 at 9:06 p.m.(Bellevue, WA | Unverified Name)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWGGjp...
#79 Abraham lincoln
on April 15, 2008 at 9:06 p.m.(Bellevue, WA | Unverified Name)
Debating if Tibet is a part of china is totally meaningless. Every contry in UN believe Tibet is part of china.
I believe country border is not static. Just like US, they can extends it more and more, while they will lose it piece here and piece there some day just like China and Russia experienced.
However, no matter what changes, I believe Tibet will never come back to slave system and Theocracy as Dalai claimed. The only way, he can return is to give up his Theocracy claim, give up his political role, play his religious role only, enjoy be a spirit lama, not an evil politician.
#80 76
on April 15, 2008 at 9:09 p.m.(Bellevue, WA | Unverified Name)
don't pretend that you are something worth la ma's sh*t, you are just one racist moron who tries to cover your true color, you are just one true pest of humanity, period! this is both english and american, moron!
#81 has Dalai had any woman ?
on April 15, 2008 at 9:09 p.m.(Seattle, WA | Unverified Name)
Hi, guys, is there anyone knows, has Dalai had any woman ? a lover? girlfriend?
#82 to 66#
on April 15, 2008 at 9:09 p.m.(Menomonee Falls, WI | Unverified Name)
Here is another one with Texas if you want to argue the Hawaii one is not persuasive enough:
http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/tex...
The conclusion is: there is treaty between central and provincial governments.
#83 does da lai tolerate others
on April 15, 2008 at 9:11 p.m.(Bellevue, WA | Unverified Name)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=n5sOm-uQH9Y
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Aboblx-0zA...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=b1dILwsmwC...
#84 Yingtao
on April 15, 2008 at 9:12 p.m.(Bellevue, WA | Unverified Name)
Oh I don't know Soo- Yi, why you want to make Tibetan happy? We supposed to get rid of them! That why we using train to bring more our Chinese brother and sister to Tibet.
I too didnt take my medications because I'm need to return to zoo by 10pm. There is much to eat there...but too bad no dogs.
#85 Mike: if Dalai fills taxreturn?
on April 15, 2008 at 9:12 p.m.(Seattle, WA | Unverified Name)
folks, I am preparing my tax return.
I am wondering if Dalai has Social Security Number, since he received salary from CIA?
if Dalai fills taxreturn?
#86 real tibet?
on April 15, 2008 at 9:13 p.m.(Bellevue, WA | Unverified Name)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcMI7e...
#87 Abraham lincoln
on April 15, 2008 at 9:14 p.m.(Bellevue, WA | Unverified Name)
To 81,
I don't know, but Dalai's religion (as a lama) doesn't restrict him have sex with women. He can do it with all women willing to contribute themselves to him. as a lama, this is permitted and not a crime.
#88 Really? Dalai received salary from CIA?
on April 15, 2008 at 9:14 p.m.(Seattle, WA | Unverified Name)
Really? Dalai received salary from CIA?
I told my dad, he could not believe it too.
#89 ordinary tibetan, not monks
on April 15, 2008 at 9:16 p.m.(Bellevue, WA | Unverified Name)
what do they want? do they want the same thing as the minority monks?
http://www.michaelparenti.org/Tibet.html
#90 Zhou
on April 15, 2008 at 9:16 p.m.(Bellevue, WA | Unverified Name)
China is most free place in world! We never kill any of our people, like rest of world, and we dont even have jail! Buy from China too, we are safe to use!
#91 I think it is foolish of our government
on April 15, 2008 at 9:17 p.m.(Seattle, WA | Unverified Name)
I think it is foolish of our government, if CIA still funds Dalai Lama.
I believe it will not work to use dalai anti-China.
For godness!
#92 to 88
on April 15, 2008 at 9:18 p.m.(Bellevue, WA | Unverified Name)
watch this video with your dad:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8FMNt...
#93 To #90
on April 15, 2008 at 9:18 p.m.(Bellevue, WA | Unverified Name)
Oh God, how many people with bad English can there be on this page?! I'm getting a headache. Whoever #90 is you should be aware of your idiocy and then cure yourself with a polo mallet...
#94 I think #90 author is supporting Dalai, funny
on April 15, 2008 at 9:19 p.m.(Seattle, WA | Unverified Name)
#95 to 93
on April 15, 2008 at 9:20 p.m.(Bellevue, WA | Unverified Name)
are you really thick or pretending? can't you tell its an american pretending to speak chinese? omg!
#96 Abraham lincoln
on April 15, 2008 at 9:21 p.m.(Bellevue, WA | Unverified Name)
To 88,
First ask your dad if he think Dalai is an enemy of china?
Then ask your dad if he believes CIA will pay someone against China?
last, ask why CIA forgets to pay Dalai against china?
#97 david hasselhoff
on April 15, 2008 at 9:21 p.m.(Bellevue, WA | Unverified Name)
actually, the republic IS blind! would you mind wiping your windshield? you are such a pussy! just shine your little ribbon to your precious hu! just stick your head farther up his pale, yellow, flat ass, will you? tibetan people were way happier than they are now! you chinks took their homeland, freedom, and culture. tibetans are much more charismatic and sophisticated than you people! tibetans are the superior race. just face the fact. linda mah has seen the light, why don't you? she is the wise one of group now, huh? you pitiful whore! tibet was never part of china! read your history books, woman! or are you too covered with thick, slimy manure to do so? you and yingtao are 2 of a kind! blind and dumb. i bet you can't even wipe your own freakin' ass. go take you and your unbelievable lies to hell! oh wait, you're already in it. and brush up on your english will ya? a 7 year old can speak better than you!
bye, motherf**ker!
#98 to 94
on April 15, 2008 at 9:21 p.m.(Bellevue, WA | Unverified Name)
it's not funny, because he is american. it proves the previous stupid american videos. are you sure you are college students? how did you get in?
#99 #90=Dalai's dog
on April 15, 2008 at 9:22 p.m.(Seattle, WA | Unverified Name)
I agree with you, #90 is supporting Dalai, Dalai's dog.
#100 to everybody
on April 15, 2008 at 9:23 p.m.(Menomonee Falls, WI | Unverified Name)
We should not take personal attacks at His Holiness because his image is hard to change after so many years propaganda. He looks indeed a very nice guy - no doubt about it.
However,if he is a good guy as what he wants us to believe, he should denounce the cradle terrorist group - Tibetan Youth Congress. If he does, probably no exiled Tibetans would respect him because they thought HH were actively looking for independence even he didn't say so. If he doesn't, he will be obviously losing respects from the west and the whole thing will collapse.
The problem is, he probably isn't that powerful at all inside the Tibetan community. He is probably struggling in between himself, the budda, China, west, TYC...That's why he keeps changing his words...
The bottom line is, we want peace, and we want a united China.
The Tibetans in west have been brainwashed - as much as we were in the cultural revolution. At that time we thought all the Americans were monsters! But they are indeed, humans as we are.
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