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Students and the community: Off-campus life north of 45th street


Mid-Sunday morning has come to Frat Row, and the sidewalks are littered with crushed red plastic keg cups and a wide assortment of fast-food wrappers and beer cans. And while some homeowners in the University District are looking on in disgust, many of the neighborhood's college-aged residents couldn't give a damn. They're sleeping off the effects of last night's hormone and booze-fueled transgressions.


Photo by Jesse Barracoso.

Old couches sit behind a fraternity house next to dumpsters on 20th street.



Photo by Jesse Barracoso.

Two trashcans filled with random paint cans sits next to an abandoned mini-refrigerator on a street in between 45th and 47th on north campus.



Photo by Jesse Barracoso.

Abandoned mattresses, an overturned couch, and random pieces of wood sit next to trash and refuse near 47th and 20th.


The neighbors may not like it, but as summed up in the John Belushi posters that have become the ubiquitous stamp of undergrad life, the hedonistic excess of keg parties, Monarch and Jäger-bombs go hand-in-hand with the college experience. As a young reveler said one night, while walking down Northeast 17th Avenue with a red keg cup in hand, "Partying isn't just about drinking; it's about excess in every sense of the word."

This is exactly what has neighbors concerned.

In 2003, the Saturday before the school year kicked-off, hundreds of party-goers took to the streets, setting fire to mattresses, overturning a car and pelting the police with glass bottles and beer cans. The ensuing melee lasted into the wee hours of the morning, drawing more than 70 riot-geared police officers and a King County Sheriff's helicopter to quell the disturbance. Partiers were upset because police tried to shut down back-to-school festivities along Northeast 18th Avenue.

Attempting to distance itself from the wild-partying reputation of its students and the scandals that have plagued the University's athletic department since the early '90s, the UW hired President Mark Emmert in 2004. He is the fourth-highest paid public university president in the country. And while stepped-up police patrols and party-registration requirements calmed the neighborhood after the riot, incidents requiring police presence have been on the rise again. This year, there have been two shootings precipitated by disagreements at parties.

Earlier this spring, national media hovered above the University after school employee Rebecca Griego was shot to death in Gould Hall by her ex-boyfriend. Griego had notified campus police that he had been stalking her, but her file was closed after an investigation failed to turn up results.

Seated behind a folding table at the entrance to the Sigma Phi Epsilon fraternity, Ty crosses a name off the thick stack of papers — the guest list. As Ty checks the list, another Sigma Phi Epsilon member checks IDs and assigns neon wrist bands. The neon bands indicate who is and isn't 21 — simply a formality. Everybody's drinking.

"We'd rather deal with the UW police. They go a lot easier on us than the Seattle cops do," he says. Ty, a 20-year-old political science major, declined to give his last name because he didn't want to draw the ire of other frat members.

Tucked away on one of the U-District's cross streets, the frat house looks more like a motel than one of the stately, columned frat houses along Greek Row.

In front of Ty's table, a line of people wraps around the side of the building, waiting to get in. Women with done-up hair in halter tops and stilettos pass the time by checking their makeup and text-messaging party directions.

Sig Ep has a rotation of members who stay sober at fraternity parties in order to deal with the police, coordinate security and keep party crashers out. Ty is one of them. After the line dies down and most people are inside drinking, he is free to relax for a moment.

In his experience at UW frat parties, Ty says campus police are a lot more lenient than the Seattle Police Department, which Ty said is more inclined to throw the book at students who are trying to party down and get drunk.

After he graduates, Ty says he would like to be a cop or join the FBI, and maybe even become a politician someday. He also understands the irony that exists between his future ambitions and managing an event that is supplying alcohol to minors.

In response to negative publicity, the University requires all frats to register their parties, ensure drinkers are 21 and allow police to perform walkthrough inspections. But aside from the party-registration requirement, the approach is similar to sweeping a large pile of dust under a rug.

Officer Patrick Gilbert has been a UW Police Department employee for less than a year. Prior to becoming a police officer, Gilbert worked as a correctional officer in a Juvenile Detention center. As he patrols in his squad car through parking lots, he gulps from a tall can of Monster energy drink and talks about his job.

"A lot of what we do is look for car prowls, keep homeless people from sleeping on campus grounds and report bike thefts," he says.

When it comes to students, Gilbert says he uses discretion in disciplining, usually opting to educate them. According to him, UW students are a mixed bag.

"Some of them treat us with respect, but a lot of them look at us like we're rent-a-cops," he says. "Some of them don't like us, but we're out here to help them out."

Technically, Gilbert has jurisdiction in the area north of Northeast 45th Street, but he says he mostly leaves that up to the Seattle Police Department and the UWPD's special party-enforcement unit.

Later, as he navigates his car down Northeast 47th Street in Greek Row, he sees a kid who might have a beverage, but decides not to look into it because it would be difficult to turn his large patrol car around on the narrow streets.

"We get to use officer's discretion," he says.

At 1 a.m., campus police show up to check on the party. It's their second visit of the evening. As they walk up the pathway, they catch a male reveler urinating on the ground. In lieu of giving a ticket, the officers ridicule the man and remind him that the fine for urinating in public is $25. It earns the man a sharp rebuke from the party's organizers and an order to "get inside."

After lingering by the doorway, joking around with Sig Ep members about the peeing drunk guy, officers conduct a brief walkthrough of the house before climbing back into their cruiser and taking off.

As Ty later reveals, the house has a system for dealing with police walkthroughs. When the police arrive, a frat member stationed at the front door ducks inside the house and makes a cell phone call to the bartenders downstairs, where police presence is then loudly announced to the party, and everyone with under-21 wristbands is asked to put their drinks down. By using butcher paper to block off the most immediate entrances to the basement, police are corralled along a meandering route that winds its way through the house, buying more time for minors to get drinks out of their hands.

Inside the house, Alex Varouhas is the life of the party, at least in his small alcove of the upstairs hallway. Varouhas, a 19-year-old resident of Edmonds, does not go to the UW, but he says he would like to. Varouhas is in Seattle visiting a member of the fraternity. He says the night's mission is to "get totally wasted and kick it with my boy." Apparently, he's succeeded at both. While leaning against a bedroom door, he suddenly slips, falls backward and comes crashing to a rest with his head against the adjacent doorway. Grinning to himself, Varouhas pulls himself to his feet and picks up his now-empty keg cup.

After describing how much he really couldn't drive a car at the moment ("Dude, like, I so totally couldn't") Varouhas explains why he likes loud and debaucherous parties.

"When you get a lot of young people and a whole bunch of alcohol — a lot of alcohol, a lot — you get a bunch of people that are excited. And the excitement — it can't be stopped."

As he continues to ramble on about his views, the unwillingness of a few die-hard Huskies to surrender partying rights to 70 police officers and a sheriff's helicopter, at least comically, made sense.

In the house's basement, couples dance under black lights to the Three 6 Mafia rap song "Ridin' Dirty." They drink from red plastic cups and grind their pelvises together in a way that almost skips foreplay. The collars on many of the guy's polo shirts are popped up, and the room smells of excessively used cologne, cheap booze and pheromones. Standing at the bar, 20-year-old Morgan Houghton orders a beer for himself and the lady he has been talking to, but after spending a few minutes wandering around the room looking for her, he decides to drink both.

Later, crouched at the base of a set of stairs to the side of the dance floor, Houghton, a member of Phi Delta Theta — one of the UW's "dry" frats — earnestly explains his dislike for many of the stereotypical trappings of fraternity life.

"I feel, honestly, like we're a lot more responsible because of [being dry]. We take care of our house, and we don't have puke stains everywhere. The other major difference is we get different kinds of people, the kind that are more interested in academics or sports, not the people that binge drink all the time."

Phi Delta Theta went dry after a young woman at one of their parties was blinded in one eye. A bottle was shattered against a wall during a scuffle, and airborne chunks of glass became lodged in her cornea.

While talking about the neighborhood's magnetic ability to attract outside riff-raff, Houghton pointed to the level of security employed at the party.

"I don't know if you noticed, but there's bouncers everywhere. You have to be signed-up, you have to have somebody vouch for you if you don't go to UW. That's fine, but after 1 a.m., random people still start showing up, and it gets kind of sketchy."

Earlier this week, Houghton said a rock was thrown through Phi Delta Theta's front window. It will cost $1,000 to be replaced.

Back outside at the party's front entrance, the heavy smell of cigar smoke hangs in the air as Ty explains why he thinks UW frats shoulder an unfair amount of blame. He says that some of the most egregious alcohol violations he has seen actually occur in the school's dorms.

"People give the frats a hard time and pin a lot of the blame on us for the drinking problems, but they never think about the good things that come out the experience," he said. "I've learned responsibility, I've learned to clean-up and take care of a house and I've learned to get along with a large group of people that have very different personalities."

Neighbors don't disagree; they just want students to learn a little bit faster.

"I understand that they are in that stage of growing up, but part of that is taking responsibility for their actions and learning through experience — something that doesn't always happen," U-District homeowner Vicki Zuber says, as she tended to a garden in front of her Northeast 18th Avenue home.

Most residents don't deny that many of the problems, this year's shootings being a commonly cited example, are caused by outside elements — people drawn to the area for the chase of booze and girls. At the party, a group of tough-looking men were sent on their way by Sig Ep security after they were caught smoking marijuana in front of the frat.

But the neighborhood's unruly image is not the sole responsibility of the frats. At night, along the neighborhood's chestnut tree-lined streets, Led Zeppelin can be heard blasting out of the open windows of rental units and glimpses caught of swimsuit-model posters and 20-somethings drinking beer.

At a shirt and tie function held by the Young Democrats, Top-40 hits blared out of the house's wide-open front door, while dressed-up UW Democrats danced in a provocative-yet-awkward fashion and drank cocktails. The party didn't seem to have any problems with unwanted guests. It's exclusive, one of the event's organizers revealed. "You kinda have to be in the club to be here."

In his office on the top floor of Schmitz Hall, Vice Provost of Student Life Eric Godfrey describes student behaviors in the vague terms of a trained bureaucrat. He talks a lot, but gives away little. One can hardly blame him. Godfrey has the miserable job of bridging the gaps between student body, school administration and neighborhood interests. He literally has to bring all involved to the table to work out differences. If one group is alienated, the process slows, undermining a major purpose of the job.

Seated at a wood-veneer conference table, Godfrey summarizes his views in a paternal tone: UW students have made tremendous improvements in their behavior, college is a coming-of-age experience, the Greeks get a lot more flak than they have earned and U-District residents have legitimate gripes. Godfrey admits that a large part of the onus is on the students, but says the University would be overstepping its bounds by using drastic measures to curtail rowdy behavior. And, he notes, rental houses and fraternities are privately owned.

"The fact remains that there's 6,000 UW students up there. There are going to be issues, as is the case with every other major university in the U.S.," he said.

Godfrey is working on extending the school's code of student conduct to include off-campus behavior. Under the new guidelines, UW administrators can impose sanctions on students receiving more than three violations of what the UW terms "quality of life." He hopes it will be implemented sometime next year.

But not all of the neighborhood's residents think the young demographic creates a problem. After having their first child, John and Patty Stockamp decided they had outgrown their U-Village home. The Stockamps bought a house on Northeast 17th Avenue to rent to students. According to John Stockamp, that's what's luring many other young families to the area.

"It's not like it was here when I was in college. Back then, this whole neighborhood was student-dominated."

Stockamp says the local media blows U-District problems out of proportion, but concedes that he gets annoyed when he hears people throwing a football back and forth in his alleyway at 3 a.m.

He says that as more families move in, turf that used to be the sole domain of students is becoming gentrified. And the new residents have a different attitude about what is and isn't acceptable behavior.

"Often times, I think karma is coming back to get me for all the times I partied here when I was in school," Stockamp says.

Reach reporter Brian Slodysko at features@thedaily.washington.edu.


130 Comments

#1 Daily Reader
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on May 31, 2007 at 11:02 a.m.
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Wow. Brian, I want to say I'm impressed with your treatment of this story. As a former member of the Greek system, I'm comforted by your accurate yet fair portrayal of the partying aspect of life north of 45th. You give credit to the fraternities who do try to keep partiers safe as well as the fact that frats aren't entirely at fault, yet acknowledge much of the "grey area" regulations that happen. If the topic has to be covered (and it seems it does, especially in light of the recent proposed Student Code of Conduct expansion), I'm glad you covered it the way you did.

#2 Ben Lukoff '97
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on May 31, 2007 at 1:15 p.m.
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C'mon, guys, copyedit your articles. No such streets as "Northeast 17th Avenue" and "Northeast 18th Avenue"--"NE" comes afterward. Look at a street sign :) Good article otherwise.

#3 Snehal Nariya
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on May 31, 2007 at 2:09 p.m.
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How is Rebecca Griego’s death related to Greek life? FYI Gould Hall is no where near Greek houses.

#4 The dude who wrote the article
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on May 31, 2007 at 2:38 p.m.
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No, Gould Hall is not on Greek Row. But Griego's death does illustrate a failure in school administration policy via what some would refer to as UW police ineptitude. And all this on the heels of a beer riot, rape allegations against a former star UW football dude (Jerramy Stevens), a 19-year-old-man falling to his death off a frat balcony while drunk, and lots and lots of destruction to a neighborhood. And that's not all of it. Sigh. The things I had to leave out because of space issues. Party on Wayne.

#5 WOW
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on May 31, 2007 at 3:43 p.m.
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One word for the article: ridiculous. I'm glad your pathetic attempt to write a "gritty" news article turned into a completely biased and outrageous portrayal of the Greek system. Instead of offering an investigation of violent acts around the U-District Brian turned the matter into a way for him to write a pretentious article filled with oversimplifications and exaggerated propaganda. “Smell the pheromones?” Really?

#6 Jon Katayama
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on May 31, 2007 at 3:47 p.m.
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The way that this article was written is purposefully misleading, inaccurate, and spiteful to a community which the author has insufficient knowledge of or respect for. The absence of tact is apparent to anyone who actually knows anything about the events described. For instance, the event of 2003 was actually ~20 non-greek members. Not hundreds of party-goers. The reason why they were mad was because the fraternity they were trying to enter was actually doing their job well and refusing access to uninvited guests. Not because the police were shutting down a party. The invoked image of masses of people charging at a wall of police shields was actually greek members watching from front their front lawns as the police searched for the perpetrators. Not an "ensuing melee". Also as the author knows, and fails to inform the reader of as well, is that the shootings this year did not stem from any greek party at all, and the perpetrators again were not greek. Finally, the author has disgustingly included the tragedy of Gould hall earlier this year, which has absolutely NOTHING to do with the subject at hand, and should be ashamed for evoking its image to further his slanderous message. As a former member and President of a UW Greek chapter, I would implore that the Daily would provide more objective and less offensive material for it's readers.
Sincerely,
Jon Katayama

#7 Alex Bash
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on May 31, 2007 at 3:53 p.m.
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Please do not bring up the tragic and gruesome death of an innocent female with a vague reference to subjectively backed-up immorality with regards to persons with whom you do not regularly interact. She was murdered, in cold blood, and you choose to toss it into an article headlined by trashcans.

#8 Brad Johnson
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on May 31, 2007 at 3:56 p.m.
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Oh my God, trashcans filled with...trash! Discarded couches and mini-fridges next to...dumpsters! Those disgusting Greeks!

#9 Objectivity Police
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on May 31, 2007 at 3:58 p.m.
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As a reporter, it is not objective to qualify the verbs in your story. Not even looking at the context, it is irresponsible as a journalist to say people were dancing "provacative" or "awkwardly." This is Journalism 101. Your opinion stays out of it. You report they were dancing, and that's it. You let facts paint the picture, or you loose all credibility.

#10 Ex-Daily Reader
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on May 31, 2007 at 4:18 p.m.
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This article is outrageous and uncalled for, and quite frankly, I would not be surprised if many of the UW Greek Chapters discontinued the delivery of The Daily to their households only to be riduculed like in the article that was published today. I have now lost all of the respect that I had for The Daily, oh wait, I never had any.

#11 Proud Fraternity Member
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on May 31, 2007 at 4:33 p.m.
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It is clear to me that the author of this article intended to write a biased article even before he started his "research." He even lied, saying that he was doing research fora sociology class, when he was talking to Sigma Phi Epsilon brothers. This article is a disgrace to the University of Washington.

#12 Worst newpaper ever
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on May 31, 2007 at 4:42 p.m.
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The terrible mis-portrayals in the Daily never cease to amaze me. You keep us laughing at lunch everyday... keep up the awful work guys

#13 Eric Tung
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on May 31, 2007 at 4:43 p.m.
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The Daily is a student newspaper. NEWSpaper. Give us the news, not narrow-minded, illegitimate opinions. Oh, and no one calls it "Frat Row." Women live in the Greek System as well- in sororities.

#14 amazed
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on May 31, 2007 at 4:56 p.m.
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This article was unbelievable. First of all, what was it about? Was it about violence in the University District, the UW police, or the Greek community? All of the random stuff thrown in there did not help the article flow and it was offending on multiple levels. Members of the Greek community do so much more than is recognized by The Daily. Each Greek chapter raises money for different philanthropies and all have members who volunteer at multiple places in our community. The overall GPA for men and women is higher within the Greek community than the overall men and women's GPAs. Recognize some of that, and don't try and pretend like you've never grinded your ignorant pelvis on someone as well or drinken out of a red keg cup. Get over yourself.

#15 John Cena
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on May 31, 2007 at 5:06 p.m.
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Nice article. Objectivity is overrated and news is obviously biased anyways... it is sad that people who obviously disagree with your viewpoint suddenly ask for objectivity once a newspaper that is filled with biased articles posts one that they disagree with... hehe... selfish fools

#16 Greek Alumni
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on May 31, 2007 at 5:14 p.m.
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Join the daily: Requires very little analytical ability, biased and stereotypical opinions, and disregard for actual reality.

#17 Former Daily Reader
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on May 31, 2007 at 5:22 p.m.
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I am extremely disappointed in the editor for allowing the article to be printed, Brian for his lack of journalistic responsibilities, and the Daily as a newspaper. This article is littered with Brian's opinion and exaggerated comments. He also attempts to portray a negative light on the Greek system by bringing up the tragedy of Ms. Griego. This is completely unrelated to the topic and Brian owes an apology to Ms. Griego's family and friends for attempting to use her tragedy like he has. Being a Greek student myself, I am personally offended by this article and its purposefully misleading comments.
In the future, I hope the Daily will be a little more strict about the kind of material it decides to print.

#18 Jeff Mason
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on May 31, 2007 at 5:43 p.m.
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Hey everybody. I just wanted to allow everyone to know that there has been a Facebook group created called :"UW Students to Petition the Daily." While the title implies that this group is solely for Huskies, please let any and all your friends know as I am sure "greek-bashing" may be a common issue on other campuses. Let's let everyone know that this article, as well as many others published by the Daily, are simply unacceptable, offensive, and do not belong in what is supposed to be a fair and unbiased news report. Thanks so much and props to Emily Cox for her analysis. I enjoyed it immensely.

#19 Ashley Hume
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on May 31, 2007 at 5:45 p.m.
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While reading today’s edition of The Daily I was appalled by anti-greek sentiments and accusations in the article, “Off-Campus Life North of 45th Street.” Not only was I dismayed by anti-greek sentiments in your article, but also with the validity of many statements your paper construed as facts. This lack of reliable journalism shows lack of integrity your paper. I would like you to set the record straight and provide the readers with valid information from people who know “Life North of 45th Street” best: greek women. Also known as “women with done-up hair in halter tops and stiletto passing the time by checking our makeup and text-messaging party directions” (Off-Campus Life, 3), I would like you to know that there are not just “Frats” on “Frat Row.” Not only did this make you a greek-hater, but a sexist as well. One example you made about litter does not take in account the other low income housing found between fraternities and sororities that also perpetuate the problem. Not only were there problems with minor details, but also construing large events as well. You incorporated the stories of two shootings and one homicide- all of which perpetrators were unaffiliated with UW. You also said that our generation has taken partying to another level previous generations have not, however you reference John Belushi from Animal house which was filmed in the 1980’s and set in the 1960’s. I will also have you know that Mark A. Emmert and Eric Godfrey both have daughters in sororities and the average all-greek GPA is higher than the all-UW GPA. Although I have considered The Daily less than mediocre before, you have shown us all to have no confidence in this newspaper whatsoever. I think you need to take a few more journalism classes and loosen up a little bit and have fun during the remainder of your college experience.

PS. 3 6 Mafia does not sing “Ridin’ Dirty.”

#20 Ashley Chu
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on May 31, 2007 at 5:50 p.m.
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I'd have to say that I have never read a more outrageous piece of journalism in my life. This article is an embarrassment to the University of Washington and it's community members. Brian Slodysko, as a jounalist for The Daily is just of an embarrassment as The Daily itself. Time after time people have read articles in this so called 'newspaper' and have come away from them asking why they even bothered to waste their time reading the articles because of their ridiculous and fictious nature. As a member of the Greek system, I'm urged to ask where is the positive acknowledgment? Are their any articles concerning the fact that the Greek system raises hundreds of thousands of dollars every year for philanthropy? Or the fact that our GPA's are among the top in the entire university, higher than the all mens and all womens average? No. The Daily is what is wrong with reporting journalism, and perpetuating the negative attitude that is seen all over the news everyday. I am extremely embarrassed to even be associated with this paper, and won't waste any more of my time reading it, as I know others would agree with me as well.

#21 Riley del Fierro
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on May 31, 2007 at 5:55 p.m.
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As I will reiterate, there is absolutely no reason to bring up Griego's death or the rape allegations. Those are things that were tragic and definitely took it's toll on much of the Greek system and the behaviors of Greeks. There is absolutely no reason that you should put us in our place, especially if you are just attempting to get a story. You don't hear the Greeks talk about any deaths related to drug overdose or suicide in the dorms. Not only are you possibly deterring people from going Greek but you are also directly attacking all the unfortunate events that we have buried. This is extremely biased journalism and I hope you are able to see that.

#22 A-Don
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on May 31, 2007 at 6:01 p.m.
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another stereotypical portrayal of the greek system......i never saw in the article people studying and getting better grades than the UW population as a whole. we never see articles about the hundreds of thousands of dollars we raise as a whole or the community service we perform. The facts aren't right and how this guy was allowed into a party blows my mind. what a tool.... using information that i feel i have heard about the greek system for years now. People are afraid of what they don't know and what they can't have or be a part of. I think it's safe to say that the Daily is going to take a huge hit in the money it recieves from the greek system and all (more than you know) of its affiliates as well losing many of its readers. Many people don't take the Daily very seriously and this article is just another extreme example why

#23 A-Don
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on May 31, 2007 at 6:01 p.m.
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another stereotypical portrayal of the greek system......i never saw in the article people studying and getting better grades than the UW population as a whole. we never see articles about the hundreds of thousands of dollars we raise as a whole or the community service we perform. The facts aren't right and how this guy was allowed into a party blows my mind. what a tool.... using information that i feel i have heard about the greek system for years now. People are afraid of what they don't know and what they can't have or be a part of. I think it's safe to say that the Daily is going to take a huge hit in the money it recieves from the greek system and all (more than you know) of its affiliates as well losing many of its readers. Many people don't take the Daily very seriously and this article is just another extreme example why

#24 Ashley Hume
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on May 31, 2007 at 6:43 p.m.
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This is a biased peice because in journalism, you are not allowed to describe verbs, which he clearly does. This is irresponsible journalism because if he does want to express his opinions, it needs to be in the Opinion Section. I was the feature editor for my high school newspaper. Christian, please listen to Emily and read the Journalism code of ethics. This would not be a problem if The Daily was restricted to Journalism Majors.

#25 Deke Jersey
(Seattle, WA | Unverified Name)

on May 31, 2007 at 6:46 p.m.
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Can we burn some books while we're at it. I mean that would be hella tight yo. GO DAWGS!

#26 Audrey Morton
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on May 31, 2007 at 6:51 p.m.
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Dear Daily,

I would like to comment on your decision to let insensitive,
uneducated, and uninformed writers contribute so extensively to your
paper. I have defended your paper numerous times to people who criticize it
for being a paper aimed at people with the intelligence level of
nothing greater than a middle school student.

The time of my defending is over. Your article today targeting the
Greek system was an absolute joke. Brian Slodysko can take his
insecurities out elsewhere.

His lack of intelligence is not welcome representing a school of
40,000 educated individuals who would like to read articles informing
us about what is happening in the world and controversial events that
have to do with more than 1 bitter person looking for a place of
blame. I pray he is not an outcome of what the University of
Washington School journalism major has to offer.

This expression of personal vindication is absolutely appalling.
Please, write an article about what is actually happening outside your
sheltered and depressing world of the UW dorms where you have nothing
better to do.

I am still awaiting the day where I gain some real knowledge from
reading our newspaper, it has yet to happen...This is a complete
embarrassment of what college students are capable of.

#27 Insane frat guy(?)
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on May 31, 2007 at 6:53 p.m.
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Disgraceful. A new low. And for the Daily, that's saying something.

Over the past four years I have seen everything from fraternity incidents being completely blown out of proportion to inferences that a dead body found on campus might have something to do with the Greek community- since it was found near Greek Row. When will the Daily stop making the Greek Community a scapegoat for negative events and start focusing on all of the good that it does?

#28 Coley V
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on May 31, 2007 at 6:55 p.m.
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I personally found the article extremely entertaining. I've recently stopped purchasing the National Enquirer and rely entirely on The Daily for all my news needs. I find it fun to sometimes use articles like mind puzzles and see if I can find all the mistakes and idiosyncrasies. Most people can always find the obvious like "Ridin' Dirty" by Three 6 Mafia and the abhorrent link to the Griego tragedy, but I found a couple other. The intro passage regarding the Sunday morning litter including red keg cups and fast food wrappers struck me as odd. Especially, considering Greeks choose to have social functions Thursdays to avoid unwanted guests and intrusions from people just looking for the "Saturday night jump-off". The old couches, paint, and wood behind houses near dumpsters also caught my eye. Could those possibly be products of remodeling? I doubt it. Oh and my favorite was how they named Ty of Sig Eps, but didn't mention his last name to protect him from his frat brothers. I wonder how many Ty's live at Sig Eps? Great job of protecting your sources, even if they were gained under false pretenses.

I guess I'm just confused. I know this may sound stupid, but if an article is titled, "A Journalist's Life" I would assume it would be about the life of a Journalist. Not just one aspect of their lives such as occasionally writing pointless articles that serve no purpose but to belittle. So in turn, why is an article about "life north of 45th street" only concerning the party aspect? Who knows, i guess that's why I'm not a journalist.

#29 Angry Reader
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on May 31, 2007 at 6:57 p.m.
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I've never been so disgusted in my life. How can anyone write something so uninformed and awful? The articlt bashes on greeks and cops. Not to mention this area is called the Greek System, or at least Greek row.
First:
You are disgusted with how unclean this area is. Every fraternity cleans up after parties and in front of their house, unlike most of the individual houses that are struggling to keep anything clean. Maybe comment on that in the future?
Second:
If the garbage being thrown around bothers you, maybe you should talk to the city of Seattle. There is not a single garbage can at any corner for miles. Maybe if we had those, there'd be less littering.
Third:
I would much rather see a cop drive and look for dangerous situations and violence, as opposed to waste time to write up a drunk minor. Underaged drinking is not good, but considering that we have very few cars patroling the area, someone has to prioritize.
Fourth:
How could you bring up the MURDER of Rebecca Griego!? It is disgusting to portray something so cruel and try to attach it to a group of people who had nothing to do with it. This alone should have stopped the editor from allowing this article to be printed.
Fifth:
Do you realize that the most dangerous drinking takes place in the dorms? Every year there are numerous people taken to the hospital, but why focus on that? It's so much easier to pin the tail on the greeks, who reqiure their members to go through alcohol education on a yearly basis.

To sum it all up, this article is the most disgusting thing I've seen in years. What you most likely achieved is that dormies (both guys and girls) won't be allowed into parties. This leads to... probably more people joining the greeks because they want to have fun and party, not sit in a dorm or apartment and be bored on a Friday night. Good job for making the greeks grow in numbers.
I've never felt so embarassed to go to the school where such things are written and published.
Stop focusing on scandals and start dealing with real issues, such as the drug problems on the AVE or the joke of security we have on campus at night. Oh right... you clapped and praised Emmrett when he hired 6 full time rent-a-cops, which is like having 6 ants protecting the entire anthill.

#30 Maggie Ryan
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on May 31, 2007 at 7:15 p.m.
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I find it interesting that in the author's discussion of the issues facing north of 45th street there is mention of a shooting in Gould, unrelated to any inhabitants of the topic in the article, but no account of the large amount of sex offenders and halfway houses, or the recent "stalking" of sorority women in the area. I believe that a comprehensive report of the shortcomings of north of 45th should include a look at fraternity parties and the abundance of underage drinking, but this article's aim was not to portray the reality of situation. In addition, I strongly take offense to the notion that many of the area's residents "couldn't give a damn" about the condition of their community. The Greek Community has made it a top priority to improve its neighborhood's safety and cleanliness by going on night walks to evaluate the safety of each street and alley and by participating in street cleans that span from 17th to 22nd and 45th to 50th. As a Greek member I do not expect the Daily to always support the Greek Community, but I do expect fair and unbiased reporting.

#31 mark freidrick
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on May 31, 2007 at 7:22 p.m.
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why do you say people join the greek system for beer and chicks? Not true. I joined the greek system for all those cuties in Sigma Nu.

#32 Emily Benowitz
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on May 31, 2007 at 7:32 p.m.
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It never ceases to amaze me the completely fabricated stories the Daily claims as “facts,” to share with the UW campus. Cowards. Brian, did you actually think the Greek System would let you get away with such an act of deceit? Your article is by far the most offending and biased trash I have ever read, congratulations. Seeing as you are obviously a sexist, it makes me laugh to think you hold yourself higher than “women with done-up hair in halter tops and stilettos,” (Off-campus, 3). Well guess what, now your going to hear from one. I am amazed at your perceptiveness in looking down the alley and finding trash next to a DUMPSTER. And then to take it upon yourself to lie to the Sigma Phi Epsilon Fraternity telling them it was a sociology experiment you were conducting, and not a misleading and fraudulent, article; how courageous of you.

Just how exactly do you propose that fraternities go about having their parties? It is probably just a better idea to not let the police do a walk around through the houses, and then maybe the well-known illegal drug use in the dorms will migrate north to "frat" row.

I wonder what went through your mind when deciding to back your story with the example of an innocent woman’s death as evidence to what, your stupidity? To think you have any right to offend her family and friends by using her death as a paragraph of zero relation to your non-existent point, how dare you.

While you quoted the “Phi Delt,” whose fraternity gets members who are “the kind that are more interested in academics or sports, not the people that binge drink all the time,” (Off-Campus, 9) it is clear you decided to reiterate the typical stereotype. Fraternity members either binge drink, or like sports and academics, but not both. If you have ever taken any time to speak to a fraternity member, I can assure you his GPA stands many points above your own. Did you take into account that there are men in the fraternity that are 21 years of age and believe it or not, in the real world, it is legal to do such a thing as drink! Not only that, but along with their alleged “binge drinking,” you have labeled them with, they can also remember sports statistics, calculus equations, girl’s phone numbers, and still make it into the Business School with a 4.0. To me this is pretty impressive; I’d offer them a job.

As for those of the Daily staff, shame on you for not standing up against this. Brian, Cristian, and all of those in support of this ridicule, I love the way you pretend that the journalistic ethics (proposed by Emily Cox) are well represented in this article. If this article held any substance besides straight opinion, I guarantee you that the hundreds of protests against it would not have taken place.

It would be amazing to open up our school newspaper and see some support of its own students. I won’t even begin to get into philanthropy-raised money and the overall higher GPA of the entire Greek system. It was a pathetic attempt to bash us, and instead of wasting our time worrying about it, we will continue to 4.0 our classes, “grind our pelvises together,” and enjoy our lives, red keg cup in hand.

#33 anonymous
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on May 31, 2007 at 7:33 p.m.
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This article is an inaccurate and misleading portrayal of the greek system and the few facts it gives have been grossly misconstrued to support ignorant and false stereotypes of greek life. By alternating between incidents of violence and misconduct that are unrelated to members of the greek community, including the death of Rebecca Griego, to descriptions of students “sleeping off the effects of last night’s hormone and booze-fueled transgressions” it reduces members of the greek community to common stereotypes and relates them to violence and tragedies for which they are not responsible. Brian, the “Animal House” approach has been done before. Next time, rather than trying to string together misleading facts and depictions of the greek community, maybe the Daily, could actually acknowledge its academic and philanthropic achievements.

#34 Notes From Another Journalist
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on May 31, 2007 at 7:35 p.m.
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To begin, I would like to say I felt this article to not only be subjective and inflammatory, but also a clear example of the danger lazy editors can pose.

Whether or not Brian has something against the Greeks should not be a point of agitation. We all know that there are people who do not like the Greek System for various reasons. This should come as no surprise.

What should be considered, however, is the quality of the editing that went into this article as it was passed down the line to the presses.

We see this in several places throughout the piece, from the blatantly unrelated and suggestive photographs to the odd and misused clichés strewn about the text. Not to mention the references to violence in the U-District used out of context and a vague, barely definable purpose for the article's existence.

Though these aspects can be addressed by the writer himself, it is the editors' job at the very end.

They, clearly, did not do their jobs.

Now, for the writer himself:

It seems that Brian was itching to write a gonzo (look it up for those who don’t possess savvy in journalism jargon) piece. Though he succeeded, I believe his methods of journalistic investigation were not like the enthusiastic indulgence employed by Hunter S. Thompson. Rather, he approached his subjects under false pretenses (claiming he was using the interviews for a sociology assignment) and swindled information out of them.

It should be duly noted by everyone, not just Greek members, that a little bit of research on anyone that asks to interview you should be habitual; shame on Sig-Eps for so easily falling prey.

Let me also say that Brian is planning on using this article in a journalism contest, probably for money or other prizes. Thus the urgency for the article to be published and the careless attitude towards those he interviewed. Slodysko is also a senior, soon to graduate and soon to remove himself from this environment.

Sig-Eps, if you want to make sure that this sort of deplorable journalistic practice does not go unpunished, your best bet is to find out which contest he may be entering and write a letter to the facilitator explaining that his information was attained under false pretenses. However, this may also do no good. Though an investigation may be led into Brian’s methods of attaining information, it unfortunately comes down to whether or not Brian himself will admit to his wrongdoing. Sources that are put in controversial positions because of the information they divulge are generally not trusted when they cry foul-play after publishing.

Hopefully Slodysko has the integrity to do the right thing.

Also, communication with The Daily in a cool, level-headed, and respectful manner should be established. It is through The Daily that you may be vindicated with a letter of apology. Creating Facebook groups and posting inflammatory comments on the internet is a means to no end. Trying writing a letter to be published in the first issue of the summertime Daily.

I am also a journalist. I have erred more than once, and paid for it. When facts are coming in fast and a deadline is looming, it is easy to make mistakes. This is not to say, however, that I am sympathizing with a man who cheated his way into a riveting piece. Slodysko should never be rewarded for his article, nor should he be recognized as a diligent, respectable journalist. His strive to be that gritty, hit-the-streets, watchdog journalist clearly went to his head.

#35 Annoyed
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on May 31, 2007 at 7:40 p.m.
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The direct slander of this article appalls me. Way to pick out one house and make them seem horrible.

#36 Daniela Tudor
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on May 31, 2007 at 7:55 p.m.
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Other comments have essentially grasped what I would like to say but there are some FACTS that I would like to inform the author/The Daily of:

A. Pointing out that several years ago a girl got injured by a glass bottle only reaffirms the use of our "red" keg cups and beer cans is a safe way to conduct the parties.

B. "Ridin' Dirty" is not by 3 6 Mafia...

C. You can not smell pheromones.

D. Fraternities have HIRED security which house parties and drinking in the residence halls does not. With hired security as a UW female I feel much safer rather than a house party where any sketchy person can walk in.

E. If fraternities have kegs on their property they get fined $2,000 dollars. They do not buy kegs.

F. Do not falsely affiliate crime with this the Greek System-- the suspects are completely unrelated and have never set foot on our property.

G. Alleys all around the University District do not look particularly attractive. If anything the Greek System has all house cleanups and sometimes even clean the public alley behind their house.

H. Most importantly the author fails to acknowledge the money we raise for charity.

As an example Miss Greek raised $80,000 this year alone.
Anchor Splash raised $40,000 and Mr Greek +$20,000 just to name a few. This money directly went to different charities such as Fred Hutchinson Caner research, Juvenile Diabetes Research Foundation and Service for Sight/Aid to the Blind, again just to name a few.

#37 FIRE BRIAN
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on May 31, 2007 at 7:57 p.m.
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This is was the most pathetic journalistic writing I have ever encountered. Talk about total Biasm! It's funny how this Brian guys talks about the Griego shooting when it is totally irrelevant to this article and the greek system. Shame on him for the total disrespect to Griego's memory and their family. I'm guessing this guy must've been some guy that no frat wanted and is totally out to get the greek community.

Also, shame on this guy for singling out and slandering the Sig Ep fraternity. They've been through so much in recent years with reorganization and new policies. If I were Sig Eps, I would take both the Daily and this Brian guy for slander. You guys do not deserve this and neither does the Greek community.

#38 Stereotypical Female-Dont forget the stilettos
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on May 31, 2007 at 8 p.m.
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Just wanted to drop in and tell Brian bravo on his depiction of females. Anyways I have to get back to checking my make up in the mirror and text-messaging party directions.

#39 Greg Horne
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on May 31, 2007 at 8:01 p.m.
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I suppose my biggest critique of the article happens to be the content. If the article is about "life north of 45th street", I would hope to read about:

1. Party houses
2. Fraternity houses
3. Sorrority houses
4. Homeless people
5. Sex offenders
6. Neighbors
7. Homeless cats/dogs
8. Church functions

I am glad the article addressed a "dry house", but we all know houses only go dry after REALLY MESSING UP. Sorrorities are only dry because they have to, and that is why so many fraternities throw parties, so the sorrority girls have somewhere to drink. Talk about pressure!

"Earlier this week, Houghton said a rock was thrown through Phi Delta Theta’s front window. It will cost $1,000 to be replaced."

The placement of that quote is lame. Insinuate that Phi Delta Theta is being punished for dry status, but don't follow-up and explain what happened.

The article also fails to note that Sigma Phi Epsilon, with all the parties, booze, and mischief, ranks 3rd for GPA. Dry Phi Delts are 14.

#40 Kevin Murray
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on May 31, 2007 at 8:03 p.m.
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Its clear that this articles invokes more negativity towards Greeks then positive. And hurts the respect for The Daily and its focus on the Journalism Code of Ethics. I just hope that this serves as a learning experience not just for Brian Slodysko as a journalist but also a wake up call for the editor and The Daily in general in regards to the articles they allow to be published.

#41 annoyed non-greek
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on May 31, 2007 at 8:18 p.m.
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i know this will end up being a greek vs. non-greek issue, but i'd like to look past that. as a non-greek, i am just as appalled at the lack of editing, the lack of research, and the lack of objectivity that was apparent in this article. there's no need to retaliate by insulting "dormies" or arguing that greeks have a higher GPA. that is hardly the point, and really? it only lessens your agrument.

the point is that a poorly written article was placed in the daily, that honestly is offense to most college students, not just greeks. i know the usual theme is "everyone against the greeks" but i don't believe that's the case here. i don't know brian- maybe he lives in a dorm. or maybe in an apt north of campus. or maybe in tacoma. i don't know. but the point isn't A vs. B, the point is a lack of research and a lack of unbiased journalism that the daily should take responsibility for. i'm tired of having to mumble when i say i work for them-- quickly followed by a "NOT the editorial side"

#42 Brooks de Peyster
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on May 31, 2007 at 8:24 p.m.
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This article is an embarrassment to not only The Daily but to the entire University of Washington.

Both the author and editor should resign and apologize for this confused and baseless attempt at attacking the Greek Community.

I pay 2000 a quarter to get an education, not to listen to some sad ignorant "journalist" slander a community that he knows absolutely nothing about.

The Daily always is talking about respecting the various different groups of people at the UW yet I see complete hypocrisy in this article.

Open your eyes.

#43 Ty
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on May 31, 2007 at 8:37 p.m.
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To the editor of The Daily
My name is Tyler Meuret, and this letter is in response to the Daily article published on May 31st titled “Off-campus Life North of 45th Street”. As it may concern you, I am the “Ty” that was interviewed for this particular article. The purpose of this letter is reveal to you the misrepresentations and flat out lies which are present in this article.
I would like to first address the unethical manner in which the “journalist” gathered this information. When approaching myself and other members of the fraternity, he identified himself as sociology graduate student conducting research for a sociological experiment. Although he never specified that this information would not be published, he blatantly misrepresented (if not lied outright about) himself and his motivations. After requesting information on what it was like to live in a fraternity (what the advantages and disadvantages are, changes that have been made, etc.), why Sigma Phi Epsilon is different from other fraternities, and what our (myself and other members) plans for the future are, the author of this article wrote a personally motivated attack on our fraternity and the Greek System in general. I can not be thankful enough that I did not answer his persistent and badgering
questions about other fraternities, and “which ones were the bad ones”. I find it hard to believe that the Daily supports this type of unethical journalistic behavior, but it appears from the two page spread that this may be so.
Secondly, the content of the article itself will be examined. The information following “as Ty later reveals” was simply the reporters uneducated observation from the outside of the house. The phone call in which I “ducked inside” to make was not made to the bartenders, as specified, but to the president of the fraternity, who then proceeded directly to the party entrance in order to escort the officers around the house. This is our so-called “system of dealing with police” (the author implied that I said we confuse, trick or lie to the police, which is not true): the president escorts them around the party after I call him. No phone calls are ever made to bartenders, and we do not “loudly announce” the arrival of the police. Our sober members are not present to warn of police arrival, either. The sober members ensure that none of the party goers themselves have provided alcohol to underage
guests. Also, there is no butcher paper or any other type of barrier inside the house stopping the police from taking the most direct route to the party. The paper is in place as a means of crowd control, and in fact provides a direct route and access to the social function.
The article also implies that after 1:00 am. random “sketchy” people are allowed to enter the party. This is not true: the security measures which we take prevent this from occurring. In many areas of the article, much of the information is implied to have come from me. As stated earlier, this is simply not true. I never used words or phrases such as “party down” or anything close to them. I also do not manage this event as the article states. Kegs are not allowed in any fraternity, and Sigma Phi Epsilon absolutely does not violate this rule.
I have no intention of concealing these statements in order to avoid the “ire” of other members in my house. My statements were made openly in the presence of other members of our chapter. Is it really reasonable to think that not providing a last name (and other members present) will conceal my identity? Had I known that this was an interview for an article, I probably would have given any pertinent information, including my last name. The only things in this article that have drawn my brothers' “ire” are the author's inaccurate and deceitful words and methods.
These are only some of the errors, misrepresentations and utter lies which are listed as part of my testimony, the house of Sigma Phi Epsilon, and the Greek System in General. The article is also full of generalized quotes and pictures that have been taken around north campus, and may now be directly attributed directly to this fraternity. This article is entitled “Off-Campus Life North of 45th Street”, but turns into a rant against Greek life, with our fraternity placed squarely in its sights. Countless other untruths are also prevalent, but I imagine other emails and letters directed to you or your associates will probably address these. I hope the rest of the articles written in this publication (The Daily) are not as inaccurate and are not based solely on the personal sentiments of the author.

Sincerely,
Tyler Meuret
Sigma Phi Epsilon Fraternity

#44 Amazing
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on May 31, 2007 at 8:38 p.m.
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Well, I am not a student at University of Washington but I have attended many gatherings at multiple Frats. One thing is for sure, alcohol is easy to get your hands on but that is not the fault of the Greek Houses, that is the fault of individual people. Getting alcohol is going to happen whether you are in a Frat or in a Dorm but singling out the Greek System is uncalled for and immature. I respect journalism and digging up dirt on certain issues but to go against your fellow students who want to experience "College Life" instead of sitting around doing pointless research for a biased report is pathetic. I admire you, Brian, for having the balls to publish this story with your name attached.
Another thing is before you did not publish this story to criticize the administrative workings of UW, this was an attack on Greek Life. I don't know how many attractive sorority girls denied your pleas for a date but to me it seems like that is the reason you feel like lashing out against them. Grow up this is college, stop making everyone feel like they are reading stories filled with "High School Drama".

#45 Adam Yeaton
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on May 31, 2007 at 8:39 p.m.
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I’ll skip the clever opening sentences and go straight to the point: put simply, the Daily’s May 31 article is some of the worst journalism I have seen at any level, including high school. The article contains not only factual errors (“Ridin’ Dirty” is by Chamillionaire, not Three Six Mafia; fraternities are not allowed to have keg parties; you can’t smell pheromones), but also loaded words and phrases, ludicrous amounts of bias, and, apropos of nothing, a reference to the tragic Rebecca Griego shooting. Perhaps Brian Slodysko skipped the day the rest of his class was learning about concepts like “balance,” “objectivity,” and “fact-checking,” because none of these concepts are present in this article. Words and phrases littered throughout the piece like “hedonistic excess,” “a way that almost skips foreplay,” “miserable job,” and “sweeping a large pile of dust under the rug” may make your article sound prettier, but the goal of journalists is to present a clear, unbiased picture of the facts. Slodysko makes a half-hearted attempt to tell the other side of the story towards the end of the article (after many have stopped reading), but it’s too little, too late. Perhaps he should have listened more to Eric Godfrey, quoted towards the end of the article, and less to his personal disdain for bureaucrats and Greeks alike.

I especially enjoyed Slodysko’s efforts to protect his sources. A 20-year-old political science major named Ty from Sigma Phi Epsilon – but I’ll be damned, there’s no last name! Time to call Sherlock Holmes – we’d get our fellow Greeks to do it, but we’re still too drunk from Saturday night’s party to solve this mystery.

#46 Erwin Park
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on May 31, 2007 at 8:40 p.m.
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In order to clarify the riot you are talking about in 2003. There were not "hundreds of party-goers" that took to the streets it was 30 to 50 people. Not one greek was charged in the incident. The only reason it was such a big deal is because the media blew it up. Exactly what you are doing. When you state such things out of proportion it seems that you are doing it because it sounds better for your article, rather than reporting facts. I do not know if you are trying to be a good reporter(and failed) or have something against the greek system. To back the facts about the riot here is a link that you can read. http://senate.asuw.org/secretary/minu...

#47 Cameron Gregg
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on May 31, 2007 at 8:45 p.m.
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Men, sweaty, sweaty men, thats why I joined the frats, not to forget the amazing group showers, and glory holes galore. I have numerous voyeur cams situated in many frat showers, at showercam.com. Also you'll see me on campus with my splattered Papa Johns shirt.

#48 Avid Sudoku Doer...
(Seattle, WA | Unverified Name)

on May 31, 2007 at 8:50 p.m.
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I'm not even sure how to respond to this article. Normally I do not read the articles in The Daily because they usually do not pertain to anything remotely informative. I usually skim through to see if there is anything worth reading and do the sudoku puzzle. But, today was a little different. I stumbled across this article. I figured it would be beneficial to read because I live in an apartment on "Northeast 18th Avenue". Instead of useful information, possibly increased police patrolling on 18th Ave near 50th where two incidences of NON-UW men have assaulted people walking at night, I read endless rambles of absolutely nothing. I was so appalled I almost stood up in my physics class before lecture started and asked, "Has anyone read this article yet today?!". I am embarrassed that this was published at my own college. As a non-Greek member that says a lot because it does not directly affect me. Maybe that is the respect that comes with having them as neighbors or the fact that any unbiased person could see this is completely inappropriate? Either way, I am disgusted.

#49 John D
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on May 31, 2007 at 8:52 p.m.
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As a member of the UW community and resident of the dorms, I would like to say that if the author of this article represented a majority of the campus community I would let a frat HAZE THE SHIT out of me before I let myself be associated with the likes of Brian here... and the funny thing is, they don't even haze anymore. Several of my friends joined houses out of high school and I have heard nothing but good things about their experience. To write such a biased article in an effort to gather attention on yourself is the most petty thing I have ever heard, especially seeing you muddy the names of houses that surely hold higher standards for membership than you could EVER measure up to. Brian, your blatant disrespect for me as a Daily subscriber offends me. I and all the people here calling you out are too intelligent to be fed your garbage. Go back to pulling hair on the playground.

#50 Elise
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on May 31, 2007 at 8:58 p.m.
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I am just absolutely appalled by this article. You have completely disrespected a community that raises more money than any other on campus (think Miss Greek....$80,000 for Fred Hutch). This guy is complete trash--fire him.

#51 Kellie
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on May 31, 2007 at 9:05 p.m.
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The article was entitled "Off-campus Life North of 45th Street", so one would assume that the author would actually present FACTS about off-campus life north of 45th and not fill his article with negative stereotypes and slander about the greek community. If you are trying to get an inside perspective of greek life, why don't you "investigate" what really goes on in the daily lives of greeks? Each year the greek community raises tens of thousands of dollars for various charities around the Seattle area. What other group of students even comes close to raising that amount of money? Oh thats's right, there are no other student groups that come close to raising the amount of donations raised by greeks.. What about greeks having higher average GPAs? That must be due to the outrageous, out of control partying and provacative dancing that fill our "daily" lives. With all that dancing and drinking, how could the greeks possible find time to study or be involved in the community? Weird...
The author tries to imply that his main argument is referring to the proposed Student Conduct Code, which is obviously not the case, if that was in fact what he was trying to get at why would the article not be entitled "proposed student conduct code"?? This article was a bias, untrue attempt at journalism, the Daily should be ashamed they printed this trash and allowed such a childish, unprofessional author to be a representation of their so-called "news". Next time the Daily wants to take a look at the life north of 45th they need to support it with factual journalism and not blame the greek community for tragedies that do not involve us.

#52 why wait so long?
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on May 31, 2007 at 9:06 p.m.
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This party was 3 weeks ago, why wait until there is only 1 issue of the daily left in the year to publish this article? Don't want to deal with the backlash?...convenient

#53 Dazed and Upset
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on May 31, 2007 at 9:27 p.m.
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After reading this article, I cannot say I do not feel the inherent goodness of the world fading away. I was there when this so-called sociology major came and said that he wanted to interview Ty for his discertation. This person may or may not have been Brian, but was very friendly and told us all about his past and his undergraduate years. He said he was 26 and from the looks of his scruffy beard, we didn't doubt it. This sociology major asked Ty many prying questions, but Ty being the nice guy that he is decided to answer these questions in order to help this guy. Ty, by the way, is a good friend of mine and a person who never hesitates to help another person out such as helping a sociology major write the piece of work that's going to get him a Ph.D. Although there were many awkward questions being asked, the interviewed was conducted on pretty friendly terms. At the end, the interviewer kept up his act by asking for contact information of a person in the house for follow-up interviews. My informations was given to him and needless to say, I did not recieve any subsequent calls.

What came out of the interview can only be described as shocking. The fraternity mentioned was the victim of bias even worse than Fox News' portrayal of The Democratic Party. Not were there many factual errors such as the song "Ridin," this journalist had the audacity to mention Ty but not his last name to protect Ty from his fraternity brothers. I'm sure that SigEp's are not going to know which person in their house is named Ty, because apparently the house is consumed with debauchery and irresponsiblness. Also included in the article were mentions of the recent shootings on campus and the resulting death. I don't know what those happenings had to do with the Greek System considering that the shootings occured because of random gang members hanging around and a stalker guy. If this author chooses to associate the Greek System with these atrocities, why not just blame the Greek System for child poverty, genocide, and the declining population of pandas. Talk about bias, I wonder if Mr. Christian Caple somehow ignored that part about the article. This article about the Greek System was about as false as the notion of Benjamin Chalabi as the savior of Iraq. I sure hope this biased article with many inaccurate facts isn't considered a good or even fair piece of journalism.

SigEps though, got pooped on in the article. Not only was this chapter mentioned in the same article as those shootings, SigEp was painted as a irresponsible house full of drunken debauchery. That is not the case at all. If Brian or Christian bother to paint a complete picture of the Greek System, they should come by SigEps to see how it really is. They might be appalled when they see a fairly clean house with many talented, impressionable, and respectful young men. SigEp has one of the highest grade standards of any student organization and currently maintains a 3.3 gpa. If members get below a 3.0 gpa for two quarters in a row, they get kicked out of the house. Members are also encouraged to connect with alumni in a career field they are interested in through alumni dinners, alumni databases, and a golf tournament. These standards sure makes it seem like SigEp cares about its academics. SigEp also fields many successful sports teams at the IMA. SigEp had two volleyball teams make it to the semifinals this year. This chapter also had a second place football team and crew team last year as well as fielding many teams for ultimate frisbee, softball, soccer, and basketball. SigEp has also engaged in many charitable activities this year including having a clothing drive for the YMCA, co-hosting a senior prom at the Ida Culver Retirement home, and having a chicken wrap feed to benefit the Youth Aids Foundation. Sadly, none of these merits about fraternities were mentioned in the article.

Regardless of how you feel about article, there are many negative consequences for what occured. Ty was just trying to help this guy get a Ph.D, but wound up getting stabbed in the back. Ty will probably be more weary of helping others out and probably won't ever trust another fake sociology major/lying journalist in his life. I guess I should listen to my mom when she said "Don't talk to strangers." I also urge people to never consent to interviews unless they are conducted by people you know and trust or else you may be in the same position as Ty. Is this what life is about? lying and writing deceitful articles at the expense of others in order to further your own journalism career. I sure hope not. Because if everyone behaved that way, the world would be not a pleasant place to live. Overall, I think the net affect of this article has been, more aversion towards
The Daily, a poorer relationship between the Daily and the Greek System, more aversion towards journalists, decreased trust of strangers, and less willingless to help others. I'm no sociology major in a doctoral program, but those things do not sound too good. Congratulations Brian, you made the world a slightly less desirable place to live in and while you were at that, you broke my heart because you never called me.

#54 Aaron
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on May 31, 2007 at 9:33 p.m.
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Brian,
Just because you never had the joy and priveldge of being apart of the Greek system and are another upset dorm member at an impersonal University doesn't mean you have to take out your frustration on the some 3,000-odd Greek kids who are enjoying getting good grades, having an outstanding social life, and utilizing countless connections that their alumni has to offer. It is obvious you are very insecure about yourself and your own social life as well. Good job at succeeding to bring down your own reputation, as well as the Daily as a whole. I have a family member who works in your advertising department and can say I am quite embarrassed he is to be associated with your name. Enjoy being ridiculed by countless Greeks for the rest of your college lifetime.

#55 Max
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on May 31, 2007 at 9:38 p.m.
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While this might seem like a repetitive post, I would like to commend everyone who took the time to say what was on the minds of EVERY student at the University of Washington; not only is this article a demonstration of stereotyping to an offensive degree, this is a pathetic display of journalism.

If “Off-campus life north of 45 street” did consist of nothing but riots, littering, drinking and shootings, you would have a pretty accurate article, Brian. Unfortunately, you chose to interview a non-UW student from Edmonds, one fraternity member (who you lied to), and some drunk guy on 17th to find out what life was like up here? Great reporting….and photography. Because we don’t live in real houses or anything, we live out of garbage cans and cardboard huts, right?

Alright, I will stop with the sarcasm and just give you one last thing to think about.

You had an opportunity to do a two-page feature in the daily. You knew it would be read by tens of thousands of people. You had the chance to show your journalism capabilities and possibly add a great piece to your portfolio. This is what you came up with? Show some dignity and write a good article, don’t bend the facts to get the story you want.

#56 sorority chick in stilettos
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on May 31, 2007 at 9:42 p.m.
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It's one thing to write a decent article on actual "LIFE" north of 45th street, but to rag on Fraternities and their keg cups and fast food wrappers, and, oh no, excess in partying?? As a member of the greek community, I would like to point out that it is not just Greeks that party north of 45th street. There are plenty of non-greeks, whether they may be in the dorms or not, that come to the Greek system to party, occasionally or daily. To make all these accusations without getting facts straight is, what everyone else has been saying, poor journalism. And why must you focus on greeks? I would like to have you follow me around for a day; I ensure you I do more than "sleep off last night's hormone and booze-filled transgressions", get wasted, and listen to 3-6 Mafia's "riding dirty"... oh wait, I couldn't do the latter anyhow because 3-6 Mafia never made such a song. But maybe instead I'll just go out in halter tops and stilletos, because apparently, that's what all sorority girls are wearing these days.
Next time you write an article Brian, try to make your paper into a college NEWS article instead of something a thirteen year old would put into their junior high newspaper.

#57 J Daws
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on May 31, 2007 at 9:46 p.m.
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Congratulations on not saying anything. Brian, the one thing you have accomplished is nothing more than the oversimplification of the greek system. Not only is your story focused within only two fraternities, you mention shootings having nothing to do with fraternities or sororities, and exaggerated issues, like couches being left in ally ways and garbage cans being too full, having something to do with greek life. You based a single party and a bunch of unfortunate stories solely on us in an attempt to do what? Are you jealous? Yes. Are you arbitrary and stereotypical in your article? Yes. Are you a credible writer? No. Does anyone besides the few people eating this article up care about you? No. You utterly embarrassed to fraternities because you lied to them. Therefore you are a liar, an idiot, a sheltered queer who needs to stop hiding behind your pathetic articles. Please, Go find something else to complain about. Look at the money we raise for a good cause, the grades we get, the athletic activities, and the documented success we have after college, in comparison to papa john's tee shirt wearing retards like you. Congratulations once again, for making me never want to pick up another Daily as long as you write for them.

#58 JTaylor
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on May 31, 2007 at 9:55 p.m.
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For the 4 years where I was a proud member of the University of Washington Greek system and active president of my sorority, I have heard just about every accusation and outlandish connection you could possibly make to sex, drugs, alcohol and the Greek System. The biased articles of the Daily no longer phase me, nor do I even give them a second glance. However, today you have reached a new level of complete and total disregard for journalistic responsibility.

For years, all the Daily has been known for is it's ability to produce articles whose purpose is solely dedicated to destroy a community and create a stigma which should only be reserved for the lowest depths of society. This type of slander and biased journalism is what I have come to expect of the Daily. Despite my numbness, I am absolutely ashamed that the Daily would feature an article which assaults and insinuates blames on a community for the horrific murder of a student on campus, for which they had absolutely no part. It is an insult to the family of the victim, to make light of such a tragedy and assign blame where there is clearly no foundation.

Throw your insults our way; we will continue to excel in academics, athletics, and philanthropic events while you continue to place blame anywhere you can. The Daily is a disgrace to the family of the aforementioned victim, the Greek System, and the greater UW community.

#59 Emory Dean
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on May 31, 2007 at 10:01 p.m.
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Brian,

In am writing in regards to your recent article titled “Students and the Community: Off-campus Life North of 45th Street” I feel that this was an irresponsible article, and contains many false or, at the very least, misleading “facts”. For example, your reference to the 2003 riot being pinned as a Greek community occurrence is a false accusation. Granted, this incident unfortunately, occurred in our neighborhood, but the majority of the constituents of the riot were not members of the Greek community. These rioters were merely part of the ongoing problem of the many external non-residents making their way into our community looking for parties, consequently leading to the bulk of the violence that we are experiencing North of 45th street today. Secondly, your reference to the two shootings that took place is also misleading. No affiliation to the Greek community can be claimed with these events because they all took place at non-Greek house parties. The only recent publicly reported incidence of violence that has occurred at a fraternity function was a fight lacking firearms that occurred this spring. Furthermore, the Rebecca Griego incidence is also completely unrelated to the Greek community. I ask you to consider why she, as a staff member, involved in a lovers quarrel, is being documented in an opinion piece regarding the Greek community.
The information regarding the party protocol also contains incorrect information. The party registration process required by the university does not allow the police to enter and search without probable cause. It is the banquet permit issued by the Washington State Liquor Control Board that gives them the power to enter our facilities and inspect. Moreover, at no point does Sigma Phi Epsilon “call the bartenders” to inform them of police presence, nor do we “loudly announce” their arrival. The system we have in place is to have sober members walk through the party and ensure that none of the partygoers themselves have provided alcohol to minors, which of course would fall upon us in a liability sense. The butcher paper does nothing to keep the police from direct access to the party. It is merely a means to provide a channel for guests who are unfamiliar with the layout of the house to navigate and helps us to regulate access from a more controllable point of our house. Essentially, it is a safety feature that is supported by most security teams and police.
Although Houghton’s statement that: “after 1 a.m., random people start showing up, and it gets kind of sketchy” is a third party quote, it unfortunately lacks validity as well. At no point during our social functions do we have a slip in protocol and I can assure you that if we did, the police would find out and cite us. Plain and simple, if you are not on the list of invited guests you will not be entering at any point during the times listed on the banquet permit (generally 10:30 PM until 2:00 AM).
Lastly, the student code of conduct is not only being backed by Eric Godfrey. The student body as represented by ASUW is in full support, as well as, the Interfraternity Council and Panhellenic which have both passed votes on the issue.
It troubles me both as a student and campus leader that an article with a hook on the cover of The Daily claims to be a “Behind the Scenes on Frat Row”, when your readers are only getting a behind the scenes of only one fraternity. This is in addition to the fact that the article is riddled with false information. The means you took to obtain this fictitious information also lacked any journalistic integrity. Claiming that you are working on a “sociological experiment” rather than a news article and not properly identifying yourself as a reporter gives not only yourself as a journalist, but The Daily as a whole, a bad name and leads to questions of whether or not other articles can be trusted to provide solid facts. I suggest you as a journalist reexamine your ethics and the approach you use to obtain information. More importantly, I would like to stress to you the importance of accurate reporting not only for your sake, but for the sake of The Daily as a means of informing the students and staff of this university.
If you wish to have further dialogue with my fraternity I request that you do it through myself. I also request that we do so on person as prolonged email dialogues seldom accomplish anything positive. In addition, one last false bit of information: Three Six Mafia did not compose “Ridin’ Dirty”; Chamilionaire is the artist. This was probably not an intentional manipulation of data, but a simple research mistake. Nonetheless, it further supports the fact that this article is not only poorly written, but written without sufficient or accurate research on the matter.

Emory Dean
President
Sigma Phi Epsilon
edean@u.washington.edu

#60 Tyler Dockins
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on May 31, 2007 at 10:21 p.m.
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Throughout my time at the University of Washington, I have supported and defended The Daily through many of their criticisms. Most students do not know that the Daily is regarded as one of the top student publications in the nation and they do provide a great service to the UW campus. Too often we focus on the negative. Like most student organizations, The Daily constantly battles the problem of high turnover from year to year. The organization that I work passionately for, the Associated Students of the University of Washington (ASUW), has many of the same criticisms and deals with similar problems.

However, I am terribly upset about this particular article, the nefarious intentions of the author and the lack of oversight by the editors. I have never witnessed such a malicious attack upon any community such as this. Inaccuracies with facts and quotes happen from time to time, no one can avoid mistakes; yet, the hatred and disdain that radiates from this article is absolutely appalling. Most people have been accurate in their criticisms of the Slodysko article, so I have no need to carry on substantially about those issues.

Yet, this is not the only incident of late. Last week, Celeste Flint ("UW admissions reaches record-high difficulty", May 25th) wrote an opinion piece making normative assumptions about the intelligence of a group of "Barbie-like, sorority girls" based upon what they looked like and what she had heard from a passing conversation concerning the attractiveness of blondes and brunettes. She stated that she "suspected they'd be discussing globalization or Darfur" and insinuated that they were devoid of intelligence because they were not discussing the topics that she had deemed worthy of sophisticated conversation. In addition, when Flint asserts that she could "finally expect students to be astute and even intellectual" upon arrival to the UW from a community college, she completely denigrates the intelligence of those enrolled in community and technical colleges.

It is completely and utterly reprehensible to make such judgments about one's intelligence based upon a passing conversation out of context, and even worse to make such statements about people in community and technical colleges. To do so is extremely judgmental. Often, students in community colleges do not have the advantages that many of us are privileged to have and are not afforded the opportunity to attend the University of Washington. In this case, it is an opinion piece; and thus, the editors are not at fault. However, this elitist attitude and ivory-tower remarks have no place at the University of Washington. Your words are offensive.

The editors and writers from The Daily need to recognize that the slanderous words of these articles have done nothing but caused division and do not promote a marketplace of ideas in a manner that a newspaper should. To posit different opinions is perfectly acceptable and should be encouraged. It is through our difference in opinions that we learn and understand each other. Employing sweeping generalizations, attacking communities and demonstrating such hatred towards our very own students is overwhelmingly upsetting. In preventing and battling against the violence, brutality and tragedy that our community has experienced through the past few months, we need to be united. We must have solidarity in our efforts to promote the safety and welfare of each other, not cast blame. The only way to combat events such as the recent murder, shootings, assaults and robberies is to work together in our efforts and our discussions.

Editors and writers of The Daily, understand that in your position of power as the primary campus newspaper, allowing or using such a hateful tone towards any of our communities is simply irresponsible.

Tyler Dockins
ASUW President-elect
Proud Member of the Pi Kappa Alpha Fraternity

#61 Some Guy
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on May 31, 2007 at 10:22 p.m.
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This article is yet another reason why Sodoku remains the only reason I have ever opened The Daily.

#62 Peter
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on May 31, 2007 at 10:28 p.m.
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The article was poorly written and poorly edited, but it's The Daily, so that's the standard. Much of what's written in the article might be true, but unfortunately the author was unable to keep his personal insecurities out of his writing, so any kind of integrity the piece might have had is lost beneath waves of what smacks of jealousy. If you want to write an effective "expose," you should let the facts speak for themselves rather than bludgeoning your readers with what they're supposed to think when they read it.

#63 Lame
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on May 31, 2007 at 10:50 p.m.
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Okay, first of all Sig Eps don't even party that much and secondly "provocative but awkward" what? Nice writing, seems like college isn't working out for you.

#64 Emily Cox
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on May 31, 2007 at 10:56 p.m.
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Unfortunately, I wrote here already before, but apparently, it was deleted. Perhaps people on the Daily were scared of what I wrote. Here again, is the journalism code of ethics. Do not believe that deleting it from this blog will simply make it not exist. These are the ethics you should be writing by.

Preamble
Members of the Society of Professional Journalists believe that public enlightenment is the forerunner of justice and the foundation of democracy. The duty of the journalist is to further those ends by seeking truth and providing a fair and comprehensive account of events and issues. Conscientious journalists from all media and specialties strive to serve the public with thoroughness and honesty. Professional integrity is the cornerstone of a journalist's credibility. Members of the Society share a dedication to ethical behavior and adopt this code to declare the Society's principles and standards of practice.

Seek Truth and Report It
Journalists should be honest, fair and courageous in gathering, reporting and interpreting information.

Journalists should:

— Test the accuracy of information from all sources and exercise care to avoid inadvertent error. Deliberate distortion is never permissible.
— Diligently seek out subjects of news stories to give them the opportunity to respond to allegations of wrongdoing.
— Identify sources whenever feasible. The public is entitled to as much information as possible on sources' reliability.
— Always question sources’ motives before promising anonymity. Clarify conditions attached to any promise made in exchange for information. Keep promises.
— Make certain that headlines, news teases and promotional material, photos, video, audio, graphics, sound bites and quotations do not misrepresent. They should not oversimplify or highlight incidents out of context.
— Never distort the content of news photos or video. Image enhancement for technical clarity is always permissible. Label montages and photo illustrations.
— Avoid misleading re-enactments or staged news events. If re-enactment is necessary to tell a story, label it.
— Avoid undercover or other surreptitious methods of gathering information except when traditional open methods will not yield information vital to the public. Use of such methods should be explained as part of the story
— Never plagiarize.
— Tell the story of the diversity and magnitude of the human experience boldly, even when it is unpopular to do so.
— Examine their own cultural values and avoid imposing those values on others.
— Avoid stereotyping by race, gender, age, religion, ethnicity, geography, sexual orientation, disability, physical appearance or social status.
— Support the open exchange of views, even views they find repugnant.
— Give voice to the voiceless; official and unofficial sources of information can be equally valid.
— Distinguish between advocacy and news reporting. Analysis and commentary should be labeled and not misrepresent fact or context.
— Distinguish news from advertising and shun hybrids that blur the lines between the two.
— Recognize a special obligation to ensure that the public's business is conducted in the open and that government records are open to inspection.

#65 Liz
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on May 31, 2007 at 11:25 p.m.
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As if the Daily couldn't get bad enough! This is so pointedly trying to make the Greek system and anyone who parties! Well I'm proud to be in a sorority and proud to live north of 45th, cause it's pretty sweet. As for the people who live here who don't go to UW, that too bad they get annoyed with it, but they chose to live here and so they exchange low rent for late night noise. Cool pictures by the way, you really captured the essence of the Greek system. Wow, just WOW. And also, that's really tactful bringing up the tragedy in Gould Hall which really has nothing to do with this situation. You know what I think you should do? RUSH A FRAT! See how that goes for you. I honestly expect a public apology.

#66 Jessica
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on May 31, 2007 at 11:34 p.m.
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In response to "The dude who wrote the article":

Griego's death and the rape allegations are indeed major issues that the University of Washington needs to deal with. However, if you are concerned with those issues, please, write an article detailing that. There is no need to include the Greek Community, who, perhaps you are not aware of this, but reside north of campus, while Gould hall is on south campus.

Also, to say that the Greeks party hard and dance shamelessly is one thing, but don't knock it if you partake in the activities yourself. Perhaps you aren't drinking at frat parties, but according to The Stranger, you are no stranger to alcohol:

"Black Breath are dirtbags. They drink a lot—most of them at least—and they will break your lawn furniture if you give them the chance."

Don't give us flak for things that a majority of college students do: including you.

Also, you failed to mention that parties at fraternities are not just Greeks. Many UW students participate in these parties, including those who live in the dorms, apartments, or houses.

Next time you feel the need to lay upon the community your journalistic talents, please, do your research and don't attack one group for the actions of several others.

#67 Meghan
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on May 31, 2007 at 11:39 p.m.
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Oh, wait, is Brian seeking employment with Fox News?

Just wondering...

#68 Brian and a 5 year old
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on May 31, 2007 at 11:40 p.m.
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Wow brian, you must have been so smashed you didn't know which way was up, really... a five year old? and you were drinking since "eleven in the morning"... you are who I look to for the perfect college lifesystle
http://www.whatsup-magazine.com/index...

#69 Paul
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on May 31, 2007 at 11:44 p.m.
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I guess I shall refrain from restating what others have said above and the disgust that I felt from reading this article.

One thing many people fail to observe when it comes to looking at fraternities and sororities are the values in which they were founded. From the beginning to this very hour their values, based on principles, stand as their foundation. They are based on principles such as: Integrity, Service, Fairness, and Excellence. These are easily displayed in many aspects of fraternities and sororities. (Philanthropies, Academics, Athletics, and other things mentioned in posts above.)

Look at Sigma Phi Epsilon's Mission statement. “Building Balanced Leaders for the World’s Communities.” The chapter at UW, if you truly get to know them, embodies their mission statement. Leadership is another overlooked aspect of Greek Life. In each fraternity, leadership opportunities exist, and each allows those in positions to learn, grow, and develop. On top of the opportunities offered at the local level, there are opportunities to travel around the country and attend leadership development seminars. Undergraduate Interfraternity Institute, FuturesQuest, Impact, or nationally sponsored seminars.

Last summer I was given to the opportunity to travel to Maine to sail on a schooner for a week. There I worked with my brothers from across the nation, shared stories, learned how to sail, developed my personal leadership, and my interpersonal leadership. I feel it was a very unique and defining experience for someone, wouldn't you say?

Along with leadership development and opportunities, fraternities and sororities are developing the leaders of the future. Maybe your future boss might have been in a fraternity/sorority when he/she was in college? Who knows...

#70 Sarah Cox
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on May 31, 2007 at 11:57 p.m.
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As a member of the Greek Community and a woman who plans to pursue a career in journalism, I feel I have a responsibility to overtly condemn the “Students and the Community: Off-campus Life North of 45th Street” article, not because I have a vendetta against the dorms or The Daily, but because I feel the article personally insults and misrepresents, myself, my lifestyle, my gender, my community, and of course my school, while achieving some of the most poor journalistic principles I have ever witnessed in a piece published by The Daily. I hesitated before criticizing the article for fear of simply repeating the concerns of others, but I recognize now that the more outspoken we are about our anger at the bias that has gone on so long, the better chance we have of ridding The UW of the anti-Greek sentiments that have so long plagued our campus.
As a woman, I was insulted at Brian Slodysko’s representation of Greek women in a broad-spectrum. His clearly derogatory remarks referring to “women with done-up hair in halter tops and stilettos,” paint an extremely generalized picture of girls who are materialistic and air-headed. I do not know the exact women he supposedly saw, but I do know, from experience (that I sincerely doubt Mr. Slodysko has had) that every member of each and every sorority in the Panhellenic Association is an upstanding woman, with concerns for her grades and her sisters, not her stilettos, close at heart. As someone who strives toward academic excellence and an overall respectable persona, I cannot believe that I am now being wrongly associated with people’s whose biggest concern is their make-up and supposed foreplay they are about to publicly take part in. Mr. Slodysko, I assure you that had you done honest and moral investigative reporting, you would have been able to recognize that whatever your predisposition about Greek women is, it was sorely misguided and wrong.
Finally, as a journalism student, I cannot express enough how shocked I am that the article was even printed. With utter speculation, inaccuracies, and an overlying bias that insults roughly 7% of our University, I am embarrassed to even be associated with journalism for fear of people assuming that I approved of this ridiculous article. Much of the comments such as “rambling” about views, “grinding pelvises,” and the excerpt that Tyler Meuret already corrected referring to the “system” we Greeks use to deal with police, are riddled with utter assumption and what is likely hearsay; sources that I know most journalists would agree are absolutely unreliable and should never render a comment publishable. I do not know what kind of editing this article went through before it was printed, but I know it was not enough, and to that I am forced to allot blame to the editors. It saddens me that this article was not seen by the people who are supposed to set the standard for The Daily for what it truly is: a poor excuse for someone to express his opinions, amongst which I can only assume jealousy stands prominently in front. It is common knowledge that there was already a deep division between Greeks and non-Greeks at our University. I can now only assume that the goal of Slodysko’s article was to exacerbate this division, and by recognizing the writing for what it truly is, and by openly denouncing it, we are preventing him from achieving this destructive goal.

#71 Zachary Meissner
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on May 31, 2007 at 11:59 p.m.
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To Whom It May Concern:

I am contacting The Daily regarding today’s article titled “Off Campus Life North of 45th Street” and some severe inaccuracies I find within the article. Aside from the article itself, I have also learned from Sigma Phi Epsilon’s president, Emory Dean, that the reporter never identified himself as such, instead choosing to proclaim that he was engaged in a sociology experiment. As absolutely despicable and completely devoid of ethics I find that, I will try to stay on point and address only the false statements within the article. I will address them sequentially by the order in which they are printed.

First off, John Belushi posters aside, it is a well-known fact that kegs are not allowed in fraternities. The last infraction that occurred in reference to kegs resulted in a lengthy probationary period for the violating chapter.

Also, the 2003 riot brought up did take part within the confines of the Greek Community, but was primarily composed of non-Greek members. Most of the facts regarding the riot are correct, but it is highly inappropriate to attribute its birth to the Greek Community.

Another ethical question comes to light with reference to the two shootings at parties. We have not had a shooting at a UW fraternity during the three years I have attended this university. These shootings took place at non-Greek house parties in the area and were a result of insufficient guest access control, something the Greek Community prides itself in regulating effectively.

We have dealt with ethical issues throughout this article, but the next few statements can be attributed to direct lies. Brian states that wristbands for minors are simply a formality. I charge The Daily to present any proof whatsoever that this was the case. Especially with increased police presence as of late, we constantly remind our member fraternities of the dangers of serving to minors. Perhaps this fraternity was serving to minors; it is not my place to speculate on this. However, I highly doubt that your reporter brought back any hard evidence in support of that fact and would even propose that he was perhaps acting on preconceived notions and expectations.

The university requirement for fraternities to register parties is not a response to negative publicity. This requirement must be included in the recognition agreement with the university by Washington State law. In addition, it is not the university that mandates police inspections. The university requires the purchase of a banquet permit, which in turn by mandate of the Liquor Control Board gives police the right to enter the areas specifically defined within this legal document.

Finally, the extension of the student code of conduct originated within the ASUW student senate, not Godfrey’s office. While Godfrey’s office does assist students with this sensitive subject, it is still a student driven extension. It is worth noting that Greeks hold many seats on the student senate and are in full support of this extension. As a matter of fact, IFC and Panhellenic held a joint vote on the matter earlier this year, which demonstrated overwhelming Greek approval.

I have mixed a number of unethical and completely misrepresented facts throughout my discussion in this letter. I would urge The Daily to sift through this article and reprint that which was literally falsely represented. There are a number of ways in which this article could be labeled a disgrace to The Daily, but I am only specifically concerned with those statements that are obviously twisted and potentially libelous, with little evidentiary support. If this is not possible, we will be investigating various options on our side of the table as to how we will proceed with this matter. At the vary least, please ensure that your reporters do factual research when writing future articles.

Thank You,

Zachary Andrew Meissner
Interfraternity Council President

#72 Angry Greek
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on June 1, 2007 at 12:08 a.m.
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"a line of people wraps around the side of the building, waiting to get in. Women with done-up hair in halter tops and stilettos pass the time by checking their makeup and text-messaging party directions."
1) a line at Sig Eps?
2) Who text-messages directions when parties are usually no more than 2 blocks away

#73 Evan Meessen
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on June 1, 2007 at 12:25 a.m.
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+1 on Sudoku.

#74 Seriously?
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on June 1, 2007 at 12:44 a.m.
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who ever wrote the picture captions absolutly made my day I was literally laughing out loud, WATCH OUT here comes the drunk greeks with their "random" paint cans...

#75 not that bad
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on June 1, 2007 at 1:02 a.m.
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Honestly, I feel like this is a pretty accurate portrayal of frat parties. I've been to my fair share and this is seems like the standard. They're a good time, as they are meant to be. The article obviously wasn't meant to be about what frats do outside of partying, it was a commentary on the problem in the community, and there is a problem. I don't think anyone can deny that. It was unfair to single out sig ep, and I feel like the article could have been a lot stronger with more research and equal attention to other factors such as house parties.

#76 what?
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on June 1, 2007 at 1:05 a.m.
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Angry Greek - no need to bash SigEp more than already has been done. All Greeks are in this together

#77 Natasha Lekwa
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on June 1, 2007 at 1:16 a.m.
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In my usual routine this morning over breakfast, I picked up The Daily and found the article by Brian Slodysko, which I was attracted to by its OUTSTANDING photos. After reading the first paragraph of the article, I knew it would be excruciating to finish, and it was. As a member of the Greek System, I feel that as a community, we deserve an apology. It is apparent that this “journalism” solely represented some built up anger that Slodysko is just trying to release before he graduates, and Brian: those of the Greek community ask you to release elsewhere, where thousands of people won’t see or be offended by. As UW students, we are all trying to get NEWS from the daily, not some cheap fabrication I could pick up and read in line at QFC next to an article entitled “Bat Baby Born, See REAL Photos Inside”.
The facts are that Slodysko is a senior, AND this is the last edition of The Daily for the year in which an article like this could be published. This just shows he was waiting for the last possible second to backlash. What, can’t face the repercussions Brian? Honestly what a coward. I don’t know what the Greeks ever did to you, but it obviously made you mad enough to retaliate. Now, since you are graduating, you better run away from your insecurities Brian, you’re newly found 6,000 “friends” that you made today will miss you so. Good riddance, and just for your information you are not welcome near 17th-22nd anytime soon, that is for sure, we might throw our stilettos and keg cups at you.

Also - How credible is the idiot you found walking down 17th with a red keg cup in hand? Did this even happen? Since you obviously aren’t familiar with our neighborhood, and refer to it as “Life North of 45th” as if we were some alternative universe, you may not know the rules, and just for a little insight, a red keg cup in hand is known here as a “party foul” that can get you a free night in jail. The person you interviewed was unlikely a Greek. I guess since you found him wandering the Greek System, he seemed like a noble source for your ENTIRELY credible stance.

#78 Emily Cox
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on June 1, 2007 at 1:27 a.m.
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Natasha-You are so COMPLETELY RIGHT ON!!! WE DESERVE AN APOLOGY ASAP.

#79 Stating the Obvious
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on June 1, 2007 at 2:37 a.m.
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Brian probably didn't make too many friends today

#80 Proud Sorority Member
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on June 1, 2007 at 2:51 a.m.
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We all know this article is inaccurate, unethical, and biased but what's new. The media has been negatively portraying the Greek Community for years. I challenge The Daily to publish an article about the overwhelmingly positive outcomes of being a member of the Greek Community and not just jump on the bandwagon of bashing Greeks with the rest of the media.

Sigma Phi Epsilon, with its recently adopted Balanced Man program, is home to a group of amazing men who positively impact their community through philanthropies and community service. I know from experience that Sig Eps are great guys and they in no way deserve to have nasty lies spread about them. Even though I am in a sorority I know gossiping is not ok.

As a proud sorority member I have gained friendships that I know will last a lifetime. I love my sisters with all my heart and I can't imagine what my life would be like without them. I also know that a majority of the conversations I am a part of with my sisters are of an academic nature, and we have a house GPA goal of 3.5. Not only do we have high academic goals we are often in competitive majors such as business, and intellectually challenging majors such as biochem (for those of us who wish to become doctors). Along with these high academic goals many of us work, are a part of other campus organizations, and regularly volunteer in our long-term community service projects.

For the remainder of my life I will be a proud member of my sorority, with or without inaccurate media portrayals such as this. Not once have I regretted my decision to go Greek, and I have never been more proud of or felt more a part of a community of people as I have with the University of Washington Greek Community.

#81 Jill
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on June 1, 2007 at 6 a.m.
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Libel definitions:
1. Law.
a. defamation by written or printed words, pictures, or in any form other than by spoken words or gestures.
b. the act or crime of publishing it.
c. a formal written declaration or statement, as one containing the allegations of a plaintiff or the grounds of a charge.

2. anything that is defamatory or that maliciously or damagingly misrepresents.
–verb (used with object)
3. to publish a libel against.
4. to misrepresent damagingly.


Last time I checked libel is considered illegal and jurisdictions allow legal actions to counteract and retaliate the defamatory criticism.

Way to go Daily!!

#82 matt
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on June 1, 2007 at 7:26 a.m.
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we had a live local indie band at that party! i would have thought an ultra-sophisticate hipster such as brian would have appreciated that.

#83 Lisa
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on June 1, 2007 at 8:38 a.m.
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I am an editor for another state university newspaper. While I usually applaud any attempts to highlight the negative aspects of the Greek system, I am not clapping my hands for this article. This piece represents a random hodge podge of viewpoints on the topic, but with no real connecting thread to tie it together. What does the salary of the president or the death of a young woman unaffiliated with the Greek system have to do with anything?
Also, I'd recommend not commenting on your own story in a public forum. Especially when you label yourself with such a professional title, "dude"

#84 nothing new
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on June 1, 2007 at 9:44 a.m.
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This article is full of personal opinions and stereotypes that have been around for years. I am over hearing all of this kind of B.S. If you knew anything about Greeks, you would know they have always held the highest GPA, and each year they raise thousands of dollars for renowned charities. These things exceed all of other residential housings at the UW. You seemed to have left that out and replaced it with our "cheap booze" and "popped collars." So maybe you should think about that while you sit there with your collar folded down drinking your Dom Perignon. Ya..right.

#85 <---This Guy
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on June 1, 2007 at 10:30 a.m.
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'Non-greek Member' or whatever your name was, agreed that the article was poorly written, yes, yes it was. But really, the 'non-greek' vs. 'greek' issue isn't an issue. Who really gives a hoot (yes, hoot) about the Greek System IF YOU AREN'T A PART OF IT! GET OVER IT! I know that if 99% of dorm residents or commuters were invited to a party, or a BBQ, or a movie night, or what have you, they would more than likely come and enjoy the visit. There are a sack of facts about how successful Greek members become, but besides that it's a place for social life and intra-community building. Why would Brian even care to write this article? Is it jealousy? Is it the fact he's tired of seeing greek letters walking through campus? He's the only one who knows, but he's one amidst the crowd of non-greeks whom shouldn't be bothered the 'rambunctious' and 'distasteful' behaviors of those North 45thers (That includes you too Daryl!). For the dorm residents, the commuters, the off-campusers, and any and all non-greek members; why do you care? When is someone going to publish an article about the drug use in the dorms? Isn't that a little more dangerous than my keystone can in the recycling bin? I'm 21, it's okay! And finally, parties don't happen on Saturday night, so the immense mess of aluminum and red plasic on a mid-Sunday morning (is that like 10:30?) boggles my mind :)...I'm eloquent eh?

#86 Hoss
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on June 1, 2007 at 10:59 a.m.
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Looks like old Bri really hit the sore spot huh?
"Higher" education... hahaha....
Thank you all for providing me with immense entertainment.

#87 just wondering
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on June 1, 2007 at 11:03 a.m.
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So...what does an aspiring journalist do after such an onslaught? Is there hope? Will anyone ever take anything written by this person seriously again? Just curious...

#88 I am proud
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on June 1, 2007 at 12:38 p.m.
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I am proud to be a greek and always will be. I find it unjust and unfair that someone would go and lie to purposly shine a bad light on a community. A community that also does a lot of good, and does not go out of their way to bash an organization just because they feel it would make a good story. Find a problem in the world, and write about what we can do to change it. Not how a murder is completly unrelated to having a party.

#89 Daniel Nash
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on June 1, 2007 at 2:30 p.m.
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I would like to applaud Sig Ep president Emory Dean and especially Tyler Meuret for taking the high ground in the aftermath of this article. Not only were their responses prompt, professional, and fair, but they were written with a level-headedness that many, including myself, would not have wasted their time on having been so slighted.

If Brian Slodysko has a droplet of bravery within him, he would do well to write a comment on this board after complaint 1000, rather than just complaint 1.

#90 Katie Silva
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on June 1, 2007 at 2:35 p.m.
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Oh Brian, if only you weren't graduating. I would sacrifice a day of my life to let you follow me around. Maybe then you would learn what sorority girls really do on a daily basis north of 45th. I was proud when the Daily covered the Greek Community in a positive light during Greek Week and throughout the year with various phillanthropic events. But this article really allowed Greek members and Brian alike to go out with a bang! I know that there are Greek members on the Daily staff, why weren't they used to check the facts? And Brian, if you are entering a contest of any kind, please tell us which one so that we can send along our own reviews. I hope that Sig Eps take the proper steps in holding you accountable for the libel you have committed. Let me know if you want to shadow me or any of my friends. We would all love to set you straight.

#91 Grace Kuraitis
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on June 1, 2007 at 2:51 p.m.
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This article has caused us to turn our backs on each other. The UW against the Daily, The Daily against the Greeks, Greeks against other Greeks, Greeks against dormies... lets please remember that we are all members of the University of Washington community, and incidents such as this should unite us, and not divide us. Clearly this was a poorly written, inaccurate, libelous article and considering the enormous backlash I'm sure Brian and the editor of the Daily have now realized that. Mistakes were made, but we must learn from them if anything. My hope is that if and when the Daily publishes an apology, that we accept it and move on.

#92 The few, the proud, THE GREEK
(Portland, OR | Unverified Name)

on June 1, 2007 at 3:08 p.m.
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Someone should organize an all-greek t-shirt or something like "proud to be greek" or something along those lines and then we could all wear them on the same day and show that we come together as a community instead of just being drunken whores as this author seems to think that we are.

*No ethical journalist would ever put together such a piece of crap article like this one that unsuccessfully relates a poor woman's murder to the Greek Community. This article is disgraceful and I would be very embarrassed to be a senior in college and attach my name to this article. I've read better investigative pieces by middle schoolers.
Good job on personally demoting yourself to the writing skills of a person in 8th grade, your parents must be proud. Gold star for this one!

#93 Take Action!
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on June 1, 2007 at 4:18 p.m.
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"Next week, first-year residents will bid farewell to community restrooms, shared bedrooms and the birthplace of some unforgettable college moments, a place they have called home for the past nine months: the UW residence halls."
"From being involved in Relay For Live to studying abroad, my girls are a great example of how the residence halls benefits students."
"[Residence] life is definitely a networking system and I feel fortunate to have met the people I did."

It does not bother me that the Daily decides to shine this sort of light on the Dorms; however, with respects to yesterdays article it is uncalled for to say the least. This will strengthen "Greek" vs. "Dormie" animosity. Also, the bias with which this article was written is also very very inaccurate. UW is consistently rated--by respectable journalist--top 10 worst dungeons, or dormitories. Even as a non-Greek member of the UW community I realize the blatant attack on the Greek system. I encourage the Greek community to take action. You are a large part of this community and should not tolerate these attacks. CALL TO ACTION: Push for a Greek section in the Daily!

#94 IF YOU DISAGREE YOU ARE A LIAR
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on June 1, 2007 at 4:20 p.m.
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For those who oppose the views presented in this article: the elaborations on belligerence, dirtiness, and generally uncouth behavior does not even begin to display the behavior at most of the houses, mainly frats who hold large parties. Not all the houses are like this, but most of them are, that is the plain truth, and everyone knows it. There is a reason most frat guys say "don't date sorority girls" and sorority girls say "don't date frat guys", and that characterizes the kind of people in many houses. It is a shame that houses that have serious students have to have their reputations tarnished by the herd, but being in a house is being part of the herd anyway. Graze on.

#95 Wants an explaination
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on June 1, 2007 at 4:27 p.m.
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When it comes down to it, I just want UW and the Daily to appreciate how strong the Greek Community is. Conveniently, the article was posted the second to last day of the school year, so even if there is a retraction or corrections we won't be here to see it. To the editors of the Daily: you have all of our e-mail addresses, I expect an explaination issued soon.

#96 confused by the backlash
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on June 1, 2007 at 5:49 p.m.
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First of all, the "rules" of hard news writing don't necessarily apply as strictly in feature articles, which this is. I'm not saying that this article is without its faults, but overall I don't see why so many people are getting their panties in a knot. From my experiences (and as a graduating senior who dated a "frat guy" I've had my experiences), this article paints a pretty accurate picture of the party aspect of Greek life, and he's got a lot of really great sources.

#97 So... where are the editors
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on June 1, 2007 at 5:50 p.m.
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Daily Editors,

I can only assume you must have no handle on your newspaper to let an article such as this be printed in the first place, so I am going to help you out.

You now have renouncements from:
-Daily Writers
-Daily Advertising staff
-Journalism Majors
-Other Journalist
-Editors of other State University Newspapers
-Dormies
-Non-Greeks
-Greeks
-Pretty much anyone who can read (oh except the writer and his little pal)

Why have you not printed a retraction or even a response?

As a student run organization, is the student sentiment not clear enough, or do we have to have another of your famous "Greek Riots?"

Get your head straight and get on it.

#98 sociology project??
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on June 1, 2007 at 5:54 p.m.
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If Brian really told the guys at Sig Eps that he was doing a sociology project, maybe he should take (or re-take) the journalism ethics class. That was so out of line.

#99 Rachel
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on June 1, 2007 at 6:03 p.m.
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A few things...

1. Your writing is terrible--perhaps you should take some of the intro to journalism classes again, they could do wonders for you.
2. You are misinformed and you should be ashamed of yourself for being so ignorant. Thank god there aren't more people like you in the world, otherwise, it would be a pretty unfortunate place to live.

#100 Tired of whining greeks
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on June 1, 2007 at 6:35 p.m.
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Waaaaa...somebody wrote an offensive article about Greek Row. Big whoop. Seriously, if you all don't want to encourage the stereotypes portrayed in this article (which probably shouldn't have been written in the first place...but at least it gives me some amusement before finals) then don't post pictures of how wasted you are online, update your Facebook statuses exclaiming how hungover you are from last night's party, and stop letting freshmen go to your parties...because they always over-exaggerate everything. Seriously, there are reasons why people believe certain things about the Greek system.


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