By
Arla Shephard
November 14, 2007
Surveillance cameras prove that UW study abroad student Amanda Knox had entered her house on the night of her British roommate Meredith Kercher's death, according to a Nov. 13 Seattle Times article ("Video disputes Knox claim").
Knox had told her mother, Edda Mellas, over the week-end that she wasn't at home when Kercher was murdered, but had spent the night with Raffaele Sollecito, another suspect in the case. Kercher was found Nov. 2 half-clothed and with her throat slit.
Knox's claim to her mother is at odds with the video evidence, as well as with a statement she made to police admitting to being present at the house when she heard Meredith scream, according to a Nov. 13 article in the Italian daily newspaper La Repubblica ("Il giorno dei familieri 'Raffaele e Patrick presto fuori'").
Knox's "confused memories" of the night may be attributed to her intake of hashish, according to an Italian judge, The Seattle Times reported.
Sollecito's lawyers and family have maintained the Italian student's innocence, claiming that Sollecito had not seen Knox on the night of the crime.
Francesco Sollecito, Raffaele's father, told Italian reporters Nov. 13 that he expects to take his son back home soon, "where everyone is convinced of his innocence," he said in the Repubblica article.
"Why haven't any cameras captured Sollecito?" his father asked, noting that the surveillance tapes show Knox entering her house alone.
Forensic evidence has reported that the knife used to cut Kercher's throat may match a short knife that was found in Sollecito's possession, according to The Seattle Times article. Sollecito's father argues that several different types of knives could make the same marks.
Patrick Diya Lumumba, the Congolese immigrant who is also being held in custody for his possible role in Kercher's death, claims to have been working at the time of the murder, according to the Repubblica article.
Lumumba is actually 44, rather than the previously reported 37 as his identification papers have misstated.
All three of the suspects may be held for up to two years before being formally charged.
[Reach reporter Arla Shephard at news@thedaily.washington.edu.]
38 Comments
#1 Gregory Carlin
on November 14, 2007 at 11:45 p.m.(Belfast, United Kingdom | Unverified Name)
I think it is remarkable the UoW has been so tight lipped about this appalling crime. Is there any particular reason why the UoW is still apparently able to count Amanda Knox as a student? The due process aspects must surely have flown out the window when Ms Knox was revealed as a compulsive liar.
#2 mp
on November 15, 2007 at 3:19 p.m.(UW Campus | Unverified Name)
Gregory -
"why is she still a student" you ask?!
Because she hasn't even been charged with anything. Because the dna tests are not going to be completed for months. Because there is not enough evidence to prove her guilt. Because nothing is actually KNOWN about this case. Even in regards to whether or not she lied - based on the lies the media have fed us, i would not believe she lied until we see a video/transcripts from the interrogations.
For the sake of argument, let's suppose she is a compulsive liar - according to you that's enough to get her kicked out of the school. In that case, probably a quarter of the students here should be kicked out. Kick her out if she's guilty? Yes. Kick her out if she lied about something? No! Just wait for the facts to come out and stop trying to convict her before she's even charged with anything!
Apparantly you're okay with kicking some one out of a school based on lies from the media and unconfirmed evidence, but luckily this school does not think like you.
#3 todd
on November 15, 2007 at 3:22 p.m.(UW Campus | Unverified Name)
if this video really is being used as evidence, then why haven't we seen it? yes the police have reported that they have a video, but did the judge accept this as evidence? how do we know it's clear cut? how do we know amanda is seen clearly? we have seen an incredible amount of bias, and lies, and i do not feel right trusting this without seeing the video. if it really were clearcut, i guarantee you they would have it in every single article about amanda.
#4 Gregory Carlin
on November 19, 2007 at 5:32 p.m.(Belfast, United Kingdom | Unverified Name)
With all due repect your media & the UoW seems to be more worried to discover if she has cable.
The UoW really needs to explain why she is still a student.
Teachers get fired in the USA *before* their trials. Due process is not a cotton wool package for all consequences.
#5 Ryan
on November 19, 2007 at 8:22 p.m.(Seattle, WA | Unverified Name)
Gregory - what are you talking about "if she has cable"? Give an example of whatever it is you are referencing. And nobody should be fired before their trial. Imagine if you were accused of something that you did not do - your employer and your school have no right to fire/kick you out if you have not been convicted. Honestly - put yourself in this scenario. It is not up to you to decide if she's guilty. Just wait - if she's convicted, she will not be a student here. What is your rush?
#6 Gregory Carlin
on November 19, 2007 at 8:39 p.m.(Belfast, United Kingdom | Unverified Name)
"your employer and your school have no right to fire/kick you out if you have not been convicted"
Not true, certainly not in the USA. I've had people on the public purse fired in WA before criminal trials.
Lots of people, teachers, police, prison guards, doctors & nurses are walked across the yard before criminal trials.
Criminal trials are the highest test.
If every teacher accused of sex abuse for example, had to be convicted, it would be home-schooling or no-schooling.
'Detectives locked on to his mobile phone signal in Milan as recently as this weekend, but it then went dead. Amanda Knox made at least two calls to his number, one of them at 11am on 2 November, around the time police discovered Kercher's body.'
http://news.independent.co.uk/europe/...
The UoW is looking after Amanda Knox because she is their sort of person, white and cashed-up after the fashion.
#7 Gregory Carlin
on November 20, 2007 at 4:34 p.m.(Belfast, United Kingdom | Unverified Name)
So is it all right for Mr. Diya "Patrick" Lumumba to sack Amanda Knox from his Le Chic bar for fingering him for murder?
#8 Sleepless in Seattle
on November 20, 2007 at 5:49 p.m.(Fox Island, WA | Unverified Name)
I would think that the UOW would place any student on 'suspension'...especially given the facts that Amanda Knox's DNA was found on the actual murder weapon.
How about the fact that Amanda Knox, very cold and calculating, gave the Italian Police 'intricate details' of how she heard the 'victim scream' and how 'she watched Patrick Lumumbra' go into the victim's room, etc....when he wasn't even there?????
To think that Amanda Knox would 'offer up her boss', a man who is completely innocent, and accuse him [Patrick Lumumba] as the murderer...UGH!
It is not about telling lies...
Amanda Knox is a very 'troubled human being'....she should be registered as a 'former student' who is out on 'medical leave' because she will need alot of emotional and psychological HELP!
Remember....Amanda Knox is the only other suspect who lived in the same flat as Meredith Kercher.
Who do you think was capable of locking Meredith's door from the OUTSIDE, [preventing Meredith from possibly crawling out of the house for help!!] AND conviscated Meredith's cell phones, so that Meredith would not have the ability to 'call medics, police, friends, family for HELP'?????? Amanda Knox.
Interestingly... Tthe only folks I have seen on TV or read about in the newspaper that talked about "how great a friend Amanda Knox is", and "what a sweet person she is", only has been from 'guys'...no female has said anything in Amanda's favor...
#9 Gregory Carlin
on November 21, 2007 at 6:12 p.m.(Belfast, United Kingdom | Unverified Name)
UoW students in Europe have a right to expect their safety to be impotrant to the EU. That should not be negotiable.
Framed claim over Meredith
The Sun, UK - 14 minutes ago
By JAMES CLENCH THE freed suspect in the Meredith Kercher murder probe yesterday claimed he was framed by her flatmate Amanda Knox – because he is BLACK. ...
However, it is not strictly necessary for the UoW to wait until the end of a trial to make a sensible decision about the reputation of the university in Europe.
#10 Madison Paxton
on November 21, 2007 at 7 p.m.(Vancouver, WA | Unverified Name)
Sleepless in Seattle
Obviously you haven't been watching or reading everything. Many of her female friends have spoken out - both in print and on television - myself included.
#11 Gregory Carlin
on November 21, 2007 at 11:02 p.m.(Belfast, United Kingdom | Unverified Name)
Well, I am very surprised she has any friends. By most leaked accounts she is, if not a compulsive liar, then psychiatricly disordered.
What happened in Perugia is important from a human rights perspective. It is also about whether Aruba and the Dutch are to be held accountable. It is about standards.
'In the latest statement to come to light, Knox says: ``There is something inside me which I believe to be true, but there is another possibility that could also be true and, honestly, I can't say with any certainty which one is correct. I am trying to work it out because I fear for myself. I know I did not kill Meredith. That is something I know for sure.'''
It doesn't look that promising does it?
Gregory Carlin
#12 LB London
on November 26, 2007 at 5:38 a.m.(London, United Kingdom | Unverified Name)
Amanda Knox is an unhinged fantasist....simple as that and i would bet you $1000s of dollars that she wil be convicted. why are s omany people logging and claiming she is sweet and innocent - Madison Paxton foer example, how many sweet friends of yours write stories about RAPE and post them on myspace? How SWEET is that? there wil always be morons who support the guilty
#13 Madison Paxton
on November 29, 2007 at 9:30 p.m.(Seattle, WA | Unverified Name)
LB London
Read her "story about rape" before you rant about it. If you had actually done that, you would have found that rape is hardly mentioned. There is no detail about it, no description, no glorification. Just an older brother who believes his younger brother has raped a girl. Furthermore, it is because of this beleif that they get in a fight and the older brother kicks the younger brother out. The rest of the story is about memories from their childhood.....Wait a second, you're right. That sounds absolutely horrific! My goodness, you are absolutely right! How could I not have seen this before? How did I not realize that if you mention a rape in a creative writing story, it should be held as evidence against your character? For surely everything we write for a creative writing class is a direct representation of our own wishes and actions! Oh thank you so much for helping me see the light. You are so wise!
Now, if you actually read the story you are using to judge her with, then you would have a right to say something about it. But you clearly have not read it. Try to educate yourself about the thing you rant about. Read it - it's still online, then tell me what is so horrible about it.
#14 Madison Paxton
on November 29, 2007 at 9:30 p.m.(Seattle, WA | Unverified Name)
LB London
Read her "story about rape" before you rant about it. If you had actually done that, you would have found that rape is hardly mentioned. There is no detail about it, no description, no glorification. Just an older brother who believes his younger brother has raped a girl. Furthermore, it is because of this beleif that they get in a fight and the older brother kicks the younger brother out. The rest of the story is about memories from their childhood.....Wait a second, you're right. That sounds absolutely horrific! My goodness, you are absolutely right! How could I not have seen this before? How did I not realize that if you mention a rape in a creative writing story, it should be held as evidence against your character? For surely everything we write for a creative writing class is a direct representation of our own wishes and actions! Oh thank you so much for helping me see the light. You are so wise!
Now, if you actually read the story you are using to judge her with, then you would have a right to say something about it. But you clearly have not read it. Try to educate yourself about the thing you rant about. Read it - it's still online, then tell me what is so horrible about it.
#15 Gregory Carlin
on December 1, 2007 at 8:44 a.m.(Belfast, United Kingdom | Unverified Name)
I have read it, and she wouldn't be working as a teacher in my country if her net offerings had been brought to my notice.
People have to be aware that the internet is not off-limits in relation to vetting candidates for sensitive positions. Air-crew, corrections officers, teaching, law enforcement etc.
I don't accept that her UoW days were as squeaky clean as her friends suggest. It is impossible in my view.
Is that why the University of Washington hasn't opened a file on this scandal? Did they know that Ms Knox was likely to attract the attention of the police?
#16 Gregory Carlin
on December 1, 2007 at 12:56 p.m.(Belfast, United Kingdom | Unverified Name)
Amanda Knox now says she was sleeping at Raffaele Sollecito's house all night, while he sneaked over to Meredith's flat, sexually assaulted her, cut her throat, then returned to plant Knox's fingerprints on the knife.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live...
#17 Still a student at UoW
on December 1, 2007 at 3:46 p.m.(Belfast, United Kingdom | Unverified Name)
From The Sunday TimesDecember 2, 2007
Meredith Kercher suspect puts lover inframe
THE American student suspected of killing her British flatmate, Meredith Kercher, in Perugia has suggested her Italian boyfriend may have raped the student and stabbed her in the throat.
In a prison diary, Amanda Knox, 20, claims she had been at her boyfriend’s apartment smoking cannabis and was asleep when 21-year-old Kercher was murdered in their cottage.
Turning on Raffaele Sollecito for the first time, Knox speculates that he may have used one of the knives he collected to kill Kercher, and then tried to frame her as the murderer.
Knox, from Seattle, and Sollecito, 23, are being held on suspicion of sexually abusing and killing Kercher at her whitewashed cottage in the Umbrian hilltown of Perugia on November 1.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news...
#18 Lindsay
on December 2, 2007 at 1:24 p.m.(UW Campus | Unverified Name)
Gregory Carlin
she never said that. and any one of you using the daily mail to site your sources have nothing to stand on. they are one or the worst tabloids out there, and are not even considered a news source. if you read the quote from her journal, she is speculating about different things that may have happened. she never says raffaele did anything - she simply speculates different scenarios. furthermore, this was not done publicly - it was written in her diary. so she never accused him of anything. and even in her diary, she wrote that she did not believe raffaele would have done this. understandably, she was speculating about different possibilities.
#19 Friends of Amanda
on December 2, 2007 at 1:38 p.m.(UW Campus | Unverified Name)
Dearest Amanda,
We love you so much and hope you're okay. Sorry every one is making up stories about who you are - it's insane what people can make up by misinterpreting a photograph or a story, huh? Though I must say, it is pretty funny to imagine you as a drunken, slutty, pothead. Yeah - this is ridiculous. I'm not sure how you can take a beautiful, kind, energetic, loving, sensitive, outdoorsy, rock-climbing, yoga-doing, smiley, bouncy, academic, wonderful girl and portray her as a lunatic with no soul. Well dear, we've got your back, and we know who you really are. Love you so much,
-you know who we are
#20 Gregory Carlin
on December 2, 2007 at 6:42 p.m.(Belfast, United Kingdom | Unverified Name)
Your university is a disgrace.
Why did Ms Knox put the finger on Patrick Lumumba? Was that undrestanable speculation?
If Mr. Lumumba was in Seattle he'd already be doing time at Clallam Bay Corrections Center.
That is the place where the white guards allow the inmates to celebrate Happy Nigger Day.
#21 Karla
on December 2, 2007 at 11:08 p.m.(Seattle, WA | Unverified Name)
Gregory Carlin,
that language has NO place here...
#22 Gregory Carlin
on December 3, 2007 at 6:58 a.m.(Belfast, United Kingdom | Unverified Name)
Amanda Knox has no place at a respectable University. Ms Knox fingered a person of color for rape & murder.
By the way, WA prison & jail guards are also notorious for sexual abuse. It is part of your culture.
White Guard Black Guard
If Jackson and Bailey were the kind to let signs stand in their way, they never would have applied for jobs at the Department of Corrections in the first place. They and other current and former black employees from across the state say the department is rife with racism and that they frequently receive, through word and gesture, a message similar to the one posted by the white guard: We don't want minorities here. The sentiment manifests itself in a number of ways, including a daily barrage of racist language—like referring to Martin Luther King Jr. Day as "Happy Nigger Day" at Clallam Bay.
www.seattleweekly.com
#23 Ryan
on December 3, 2007 at 9:36 a.m.(UW Campus | Unverified Name)
Gregory Carlin,
Will you stop seeing nothing but color? This case is much more complicated than that.
#24 Gregory Carlin
on December 3, 2007 at 12:10 p.m.(Belfast, United Kingdom | Unverified Name)
I know, It is about the UoW's very own psycho-killer.
#25 Madison
on December 3, 2007 at 1:34 p.m.(Seattle, WA | Unverified Name)
Gregory Carlin,
If you know, then why won't you stop going on and on about issues unrelated to this case? And honestly, with Guede's DNA all over Meredith, his prints in the house, his semen there, his admission that he was there and had sex with Meredith, and his statement that Amanda was not there, you still think Amanda is a murderer? Wow. You have obviously been reading the Daily Mail too much, and have decided a long time ago that Amanda did this, regardless of what the DNA evidence shows. While not all the evidence is cleared up, the point is you cannot argue for one second that Amadna looks more guilty than Guede. Amanda has a droplet of blood on the faucet of the house she lived in - a droplet of blood that has not been provento be from that night. That is the only DNA against her in regards to being in that house, and just like with the other DNA evidence against her, in time it will be disproven. And the evidence against Guede? Are you willing to believe what this man says? That a brown-haired Italian killed Meredith while Geude was going to the bathroom? That Guede got scared and ran away, instead of EVER calling the cops? And then, Guede leaves the country! Somehow Amanda's drop of blood in her own house is more condemning than this?! Love to hear your logic on this one.
#26 Alexandra
on December 3, 2007 at 7:08 p.m.(Seattle, WA | Unverified Name)
Gregory Carlin,
Nice to see that you are a perfect example of the prejudice you are accusing amanda of. You are choosing to blatantly ignore any evidence that has come out, pointing towards Geude as the killer, and AWAY from Amanda... Geude even said that Amanda was never there. However, you are too prejudiced against Amanda to accept any evidence published that supports her case. You are also to prejudiced to see the way the evidence that has been released has been sensationalized. You are sitting here telling us that Washington is racist, and that Amanda is racist... you are prejudiced as well given that opinion... and we're also not the ones choosing to use derogatory words like the "N" word as freely as you do... think about it... lets follow the direct evidence and find justice for meredith... looking at amanda is looking in the wrong direction...
#27 Gregory Carlin
on December 4, 2007 at 3:59 a.m.(Belfast, United Kingdom | Unverified Name)
"If you know, then why won't you stop going on and on about issues unrelated to this case? And honestly, with Guede's DNA all over Meredith, his prints in the house, his semen there, his admission that he was there and had sex with Meredith, and his statement that Amanda was not there, you still think Amanda is a murderer?"
So the drug-dealer (of color) associated with the UoW suspect did it. Who let him into the house?
Why is Ms Knox still an enrolled student?
It is the same question.
Why?
#28 Gregory Carlin
on December 4, 2007 at 4:09 a.m.(Belfast, United Kingdom | Unverified Name)
"However, you are too prejudiced against Amanda to accept any evidence published that supports her case."
I am too long in show-biz to be interested in a fifth re-write of a crime plot.
I think you will find that Amanda Knox goes down in history for being far too complicated for a working facade of struggled innocence.
I should point out that she is in jail in the EU. She is not in Texas or Alabama.
It is possible to cop to a diminished capacity defense in Europe if one has missed breakfast and the weather is not so good.
Amanda Knox is clearly not in the good offices of the police. In the EU that means she is viewed as being far more than a material witness who is a victim of circumstance.
In Europe, the white girl, will usually walk in most circumstances if there is *anything* positive attached to her side of the problem and if she is helpful.
#29 David
on December 4, 2007 at 1:04 p.m.(UW Campus | Unverified Name)
Gregory Carlin,
Stop with the "(of color)" thing. Amanda never accused Guede of anything...so what on earth is your point? There IS DNA evidence that Guede was there, he has admitted to being there, he has said Amanda was not there. So what the hell does this have to do with his color? Honestly, is that all you see? According to his story, Meredith let him into the house - his allegations of a brown-haired Italian man killing Meredith while he was on the toilet are yet to be confirmed or disproved, but regardless, in an online conversation with who he thought was his friend (actually the police) he verified all these things. The man who is proven and admitted to having been there that night said Amanda Knox was not there.
And why do you care so much that Amanda is still a student at UW? She's obviously not doing any classes right now. It would be irresponsible for any university to expel a student when a case is nowhere near to being closed. If she is guilty, then obviously she will not be a student. And your earlier insistence that teachers are fired after being alleged of sex crimes is incorrect. They are put on paid leave while a trial is in the process and, if proven innocent, can return to their jobs. If guilty, then they go to jail.
#30 Gregory Carlin
on December 4, 2007 at 7:42 p.m.(Belfast, United Kingdom | Unverified Name)
Amanda Knox never accused Guede of anything?
Possibly not, however she was phoning Guede wasn't she, after the murder, that is. What do you think?
Some Clallam Bay style color.
"The Congolese bar owner who spent two weeks in prison after being accused of the murder of British student Meredith Kercher has said he will never forgive her flatmate Amanda Knox for involving him in the case."
#31 Gregory Carlin
on December 4, 2007 at 7:50 p.m.(Belfast, United Kingdom | Unverified Name)
Cell phone records apparently show that Guede called Knox both before and after the murder.
#32 David
on December 4, 2007 at 11:03 p.m.(UW Campus | Unverified Name)
Gregory Carlin,
"Cell phone records apparently show that Guede called Knox both before and after the murder." Yes, APPARENTLY. It's obvious that you want to believe things before they are confirmed, but for the rest of us, we will wait for the evidence to be verified. The police also claimed that Solleccito was not on his computer, while computer specialists say he was. I will believe the experts and specialists on this, and not the police, as it is clear that they have their own agenda, and they are not the ones doing the testing.
#33 David
on December 4, 2007 at 11:05 p.m.(UW Campus | Unverified Name)
Carlin,
And what do you mean "possibly not" in reference to Amanda Knox not accusing Guede? Guede's DNA was everywhere - it didn't take an accusation to send the police after him. Guede admitted to being there - he admitted to many things. Amanda has not mentioned Guede once.
#34 Gregory Carlin
on December 6, 2007 at 7:59 a.m.(Belfast, United Kingdom | Unverified Name)
I know she didn't mention him once. They talked on the phone though, before and after the murder.
She did point the finger at somebody else though.
The magistrates in Italy are of a view that Knox was involved in the murder of her room-mate.
I think your university is a disgrace.
I am (BTW) as a matter of PNW interest re-reading our sexual abuse complaints from female inmates at Purdy.
Generally,
I am also not pleased the FBI had a role in obfuscating pedophilia in Belgium at the time of Operation Hamlet.
If I am to risk my life in some terrorist infested toilet supporting the Govt. of the United States, I would like to see higher standards stateside.
The UoW could make a start by dealing with Ms Knox, a British girl was murdered, the UoW should insist on a few answers instead of helping Amanda Knox.
There are no due process issues at stake.
Gregory Carlin
#35 Gregory Carlin
on December 6, 2007 at 8:08 a.m.(Belfast, United Kingdom | Unverified Name)
How would your parents feel if the UoW was tricked into sending kids to pimp or sex trafficker owned premises in Limerick or Prague. Or if kids went 'missing'?
I would never stop looking and I would roast the culprits aand exact as much revenge for the UoW as I could engineer.
I never give up on young Americans when they are murdered.
The Italian murder was at a student residence, and it is college related. The UoW need to sort it out.
Who are the UoW going to send us next, Jack the Ripper's American cousin?
G.
#36 amjka
on December 8, 2007 at 12:07 p.m.(Brussels, Belgium | Unverified Name)
The only thing we know with one hundred percent certainty is that Amanda Knox made up an elaborate story accusing an innocent man of killing her roommate. This woman who is being defended by people so vehemently almost sent a man to jail for the rest of his life. For this very reason alone I would shut my mouth about how great and sweet she is. She obviously has very little regard for the lives of other people.
#37 Gregory Carlin
on December 9, 2007 at 10:02 a.m.(Belfast, United Kingdom | Unverified Name)
The UoW needs to look into whatever else may have happened before she went to Italy.
#38 Tazia
on April 24, 2008 at 9:13 p.m.(Belfast, United Kingdom | Unverified Name)
I think the investigation is a disgrace. I also don't see the same degree of anti-Knox sentiment lately.
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