The Daily of the University of Washington

Fear and loathing in Pullman


PULLMAN, Wash. — On the way to Pullman, it was as if the Husky team bus couldn't make it through Snoqualmie Pass. That's why when you watched the game on Saturday, it seemed like the Dawgs didn't even show up.

All jokes aside, that was an embarrassing humiliation at the hands of our rivals, one that will live long in the lore of the Cougar faithful.

Yes, the half-drunken mess that is the 'Zzu Crew got its money's worth. As pathetic as the Huskies' performance was, the behavior of the WSU student section was just as reprehensible.

I felt like I was in the frat house from hell.

One could barely even make out the national anthem amid the constant intoxicated interruptions. They throw trash around as comfortably as obscene chants and gestures — they make the guys from MTV's Jackass look like schoolboys.

On two separate instances, the fans did a Gator Chop — try to figure that one out.

It was like they had the attention span of a crazed kindergarten class in need of a nap.

I'm not going to go as far as to say the 'Zzu Crew belongs in a zoo, but that certainly may well be their future profession.

It was almost funny how the second half attendance at Friel Court was significantly lower than that of the first. The security crew had to earn its money, escorting out many inebriated fans all game — sometimes in handcuffs.

Sadly, as bad as those primal fans were, the Husky performance on the court was just as bad.

A once-praiseworthy team is now fading deeper into the realm of mediocrity.

The fans participating in the in-game promotions shot better than the Dawgs; the young karate kids at halftime brought more energy.

The Cougars were given wide-open shot opportunities, evidence that lazy defense is nearly becoming a Husky trademark. They lacked the attitude to force stops.

The first half would have been the worst half in recent basketball history — but unfortunately they played a second.

WSU coach Tony Bennett, with his too-cool-for-school look — suit and no tie à la Barack Obama — mercifully sent out the walk-ons with more than three minutes remaining.

Hey, at least we beat them in football, right?

After the game, coach Lorenzo Romar was visibly searching for answers.

"When are we going to get it?" he asked.

Husky fans surely wonder the same. You could count the number of Husky students at the game on one hand — evidence that the devotion of the Dawg Pack is nearing unexplored lows.

Sickness and injuries have been plaguing certain Huskies, but it might as well be the whole program. Romar could only use eight players in his rotation on Saturday. The Cougars played 14.

Earlier this season we saw intensity, execution and team chemistry. Now that's gone. How much can we blame on the Sports Illustrated cover curse?

This season is slowly turning into a "what could've been" situation.

Hopefully things start clicking again soon, because on Saturday, the embarrassment and the Pullman experience were certainly not worth the trip.

Reach columnist Joshua Mayers at sports@thedaily.washington.edu


22 Comments

#1 Kim A PROUD COUGAR!
(Pullman, WA | Unverified Name)

on January 24, 2007 at 11:38 p.m.
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Congratulations Joshua for turning that pitiful piece of 'woe is me' into a published article. We stomped you on that basketball game.. not only did your fans not show up, but apparently the team didnt either. So thank you for focusing on our school pride and sold out attendance to the game- and you can get bet after a win like that, we celebrated even harder later on. GO COUGS!

#2 CougBen
(Pullman, WA | Unverified Name)

on January 25, 2007 at 12:10 a.m.
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Always finding a reason to blame someone else or make your team look good when they clearly were not. You had to find something to whine about so you devoted an ENTIRE article to our fan section? Pathetic! Find something *real* to complain about, and stop stomping on some of the most loyal fans in the Pac 10 just because your precious Huskies weren't up to par in a sport that is clearly dominated by the Cougs. GO COUGS!!!

#3 Pathetic.
(Pullman, WA | Unverified Name)

on January 25, 2007 at 12:29 a.m.
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Quite possibly the worst attempt at an article I have ever seen. How about you stop trying to be the next hotshot columnist, because it obviously is not working. Taking shots at our fan section? That's lovely. At least we can sell out the horrible venue that is Beasley. Yeah we have the Cougar Chomp. Can't explain it. But can you explain the Seminole Chop you stole from Florida State? Didn't think so. All I see out of this "article" is a failure to cover up the inevitable: We are the better team, we have the better fans and this is our state. Also, nice try to expose your "Dawgpack" on your Videocast. You even managed to spell "opposing" wrong. And to think that this is coming from the school proving to have the brains of the state and not the brawn. Funny how that works; I guess we have both now. So Joshua Mayers, keep plugging away with your elementary-level writing (you used "embarrassing as an adjective for "humilation." Nicely done.) and try to actually write something, you no-talent assclown. Your writing is almost as bad as your basketball team. And to think that both of you represent UW. Stop ruining lives. Go Cougs.

#4 Big B
(Pullman, WA | Unverified Name)

on January 25, 2007 at 12:45 a.m.
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I am writing in regards to your "Fear and Loathing in Pullman" article. I think that you are a poor loser and need to get over the fact that not only is the WSU team the best basketball team in Washington, but that the fans are better and more devoted than the sorry Dawg Pack. My friend is a police officer and said that only three arrests were made at the game and one of them was a pissed husky fan. Next time get your facts right. That's all I really have to say except that at least when you beat us for Apple Cup our paper blamed our own team for the loss and not bad driving conditions or lack of players due to injury. See you at the tournament (if you make it).

Your friendly Cougar,
Brandon Schmitt

p.s. I could hear the saxophone national anthem perfectly

#5 hardy awadjie
(Pullman, WA | Unverified Name)

on February 2, 2007 at 2:13 a.m.
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So of course as a cougar I had to defend my university and RANKED basketball team...

1. "On the way to Pullman, it was as if the Husky team bus couldn’t make it through Snoqualmie Pass"
When you can afford better buses, then make the trip to a WSU

2. "...the behavior of the WSU student section was just as reprehensible."
That "behavior" is called school spirit. But with such a horrible team, I guess it is hard to understand

3. "...the constant intoxicated interruptions. They throw trash around as comfortably as obscene chants and gestures"
Were you even at the game? Or are you basing your observations off what you heard from your friends over at the "frat house from hell". We "throw trash around" as much as any other school, it's called a SPORTING EVENT. God forbid if there is trash leftover after the Super Bowl. Furthermore, it was those obscene chants and gestures that help with the loss of such a miserable school.

4. "On two separate instances, the fans did a Gator Chop — try to figure that one out."
"It is hard to put 2 and 2 together...Maybe transfer to WSU, the smog is getting to you.

5. "It was almost funny how the second half attendance at Friel Court was significantly lower than that of the first."
When we are up by 20+ in the 2nd half, it's not even a game anymore, it's scrimmage. Good try though, you gave it your best.

6. "..mercifully sent out the walk-ons with more than three minutes remaining."
Again, it wasn't even a game, we can't risk to lose our best players to a JV team...

Instead of finding something to bitch about, why don't you man up and go write a article about how well YOUR team is doing. You lost your ranking fair and square. We moved up. And will continue too. Hope to see you at the next game, I'll be in the student section wearing crimson and gray, not the ugly purple you call school colors.

oh and of course,
GO COUGS.

Hardy Awadjie
Delta Simga Phi

#6 Rick Scott
(Pullman, WA | Unverified Name)

on February 2, 2007 at 11:03 a.m.
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Wow. I'm not even exactly sure where to begin with this slanderous/innacurate mess you call an article.

You state that "one could barely make out the national anthem amid the constant intoxicated interruptions." What? The place was dead silent besides the "home of the COUGS" at the end of the song.

I'm not going to respond to the Cougar Chomp because you obviously did not do your research on where it came from before writing this article.

Next, you state "they throw trash everywhere and make obscene chants"

Again, you failed to realize tradition in the fact that we hold up a sign while the opposing team is introduced, then follow it by throwing it straight in the air. Not on the court as you imply. And yes, we do chant at players. Do you mean to tell me your dawg pack has never yelled anything obscene or offensive to get an opposing player off their game? Hypocrite.

Furthermore, you go on to say something to the likes of "it was funny to see how some of the crowd emptied in the 2nd half." Considering most of us were in line at 6-7am to get seats for the game that started at 3pm, you're basketball team put them to sleep and that's what they went home to do.

Also, you state that "security guards had to escort many students out of the game - sometimes in handcuffs." For being a "prestigious" angel of a UW student you portray yourself to be, maybe you should learn how to count. One. That's how many students were escorted from the game. Are you telling me there has never been a student escorted from the dawg pack? Again, hyprocrite.

I would would to say this article is a complete joke and shows your clear misunderstanding of professionalism and ability to publish a well written article. If these claims were accurate, this article might side more towards well written. However, all this article contains is lackluster punch lines, cheap shots, and ill-fated attempts to tarnish the image of my school. Perhaps you should read up on what libel means. Perhaps you might consider transferring to WSU. Our communications program is #1 among all public school in the country and #2 only to Columbia. Here you might just learn to write an article with facts that support your claims.

I think I've said enough.

-Rick Scott
Communications/Journalism Major
ZZU CRU member

PS: How'd you like my Ted Bundy sign?

#7 BigBallaJ
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on February 2, 2007 at 1:35 p.m.
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THE REASON ALL THE COUGARS ARE MAD IS BECAUSE THEY CAN'T MAKE SENSE OF THE ARTICLE DUE TO THE PROLIFERENCE OF BIG WORDS

#8 GOCOUGS
(Pullman, WA | Unverified Name)

on February 2, 2007 at 5:49 p.m.
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What a lame article. How can you accuse the WSU students of acting like immature kids and turn around and write this whiny, crappy article?

He twisted all his facts... what a jerk.

My favorite is his bashing of Bennett and his attire. Bennett wore a sport coat and collared shirt. It's very practical to go without a tie because it is hot inside! Romar, on the other hand, wore a tie with a hanky. It's all a matter of preference.

Keep crying, Dawgs

#9 NYC Coug
(New York, NY | Unverified Name)

on February 2, 2007 at 8:36 p.m.
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Fear? Mission accomplished!
Go Cougs

#10 Cory Shane Kellogg - that's right!
(Seattle, WA | Unverified Name)

on February 2, 2007 at 8:49 p.m.
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You hit it right on the head my man. To the people that are using the tired, played-out "fuskies" references, you know what? At UW, plagiarism is a major crime. You need to give credit to Oregon for thinking of that one - 15 years ago! And the Ted Bundy sign? Another Oregon original. Wow, I didn't think I could hate anyone more than the WSU and UO football fans, but now, with these remarks back to you, I guess I have a new group to hate. Hey, the Cougs look like one of those annual 5th seeds that will go down in the first round. I am predicting it here. It is too bad too, their team is actually looking good, and I enjoy watching them play. It is those idiots, even with your WSU degrees, you're still classified as idiots, that make rooting for them unbearable. I guess they couldn't make it all the way to the end when you did actually take shots at how your team played. But then again, hooked on phonics isn't avaliable on the Palouse yet. No worries about the Cougs. They will still be a far cry from a Pac-10 staple atop of the league, like the Dawgs have been for the better part of the 2K decade. (That is the 2000's for any WSU people reading)

#11 BAE
(Monroe, WA | Unverified Name)

on February 3, 2007 at 2:25 a.m.
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Corey, Corey, Corey.....it is obvious you must be pretty young since you refer to "15 years ago" as if it were the beginning of time. Also refering to three years (the number of years the Huskies have been a "staple atop of the league") as the better part of the 2k decade is a bit specious, don't ya think?

I can not say where or when the phrase "Huck the Fuskies" originated but I can tell you it has been used during the UW v. WSU rivalry games since at least 1977 and the very crass but oh so accurate "Ted Bundy was a Husky" sign has been around,...well, since shortly after Ted Bundy was arrested. It certainly did not take the sharpest tool in the shed at either UO or WSU to figure that one out.

It is ironic that such a faithful Husky fan is quick to accuse WSU fans of plagiarism when Husky fans have been so eager to usurp the long established WSU phrase “Coug It”.

I grew up in Eastern Washington in the ‘60’s & '70's and WSU fans and alumni unfortunately had reason to coin and use that phrase as a bit of self depricating humor before I started attending games in Rogers Field/Martin Stadium or Bohler Gym/Beasley Coliseum in 1972. It was used in fun to shrug off another Cougar loss. Now, Johnny-come-lately Husky fans think it is sooooo original and soooo funny that you hear Angie Arlati use it on FSN Live broadcasts and somehow Husky fans have come to believe they must have originated the phrase.

I have to let you know I am a bit bothered by the expressed emotion of disdain in the Mayers article and in your comments. If you are such a well educated, intelligent UW alumna (or is that alumnus), why are you so quick to say “…I didn’t think I could hate anyone more than the WSU and UO football fans, but now, ….. I guess I have a new group to hate…?” Those are pretty strong words, painted with an awfully broad brush, directed to people you do not know who may be your coworkers and neighbors. I can only imagine what other “groups” of people you hate due simply to a predetermined, definition you apply based on an external perception - pathetic.

One final thought, before you try to blast me as just another "DUMB Coug" I have to let you know I am a graduate of the University of Washington who grew up in Eastern Washington. I attended games at WSU as a fan throughout the 70's and 80's but decided to get out on my own and attend the University of Washington. I attended games in Husky Stadium and Hec-Ed as a UW student in the late '80's and early '90's so I have a much more broad body of experience to offer an opinion than perhaps you or Mr. Mayers. I can tell you with all honesty, that students and the way they behave at either schools are very similar despite what most Husky fans and Joshua Mayers would like to think.

Go Dawgs and Go Cougs.

#12 Army Coug
(Susanville, CA | Unverified Name)

on February 3, 2007 at 4:07 p.m.
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I'm not going to try to call you out on every mistake you made in this article because there's too many to list but I'll state a few things that pissed me off. I know everyone has mentioned this but that's the cougar chomp you dumbass!!! Apparently you don't watch any of the athletic events between Washington and Washington State. We do that at EVERY sporting event and we didn't attempt it "on two seperate instances" we did it like 5 times. As far as the police escorting our fans out, yes a few people got removed from the coliseum, but atleast our school has enough respect for our opponents to do so. At Apple Cup 2005, cougar fans rushed the field. So what did the husky fans do? Rushed the field as well so they could get their shots in. They tackled one of our cheerleaders as they were flying our flag. One of my friends got arrested for throwing a piece of litter onto the field at the Apple Cup this year and he was stone sober. As far as Washington being plagued with injuries, boo fucking hoo! Did you pay any attention to Football this year. Without many of our key players we still came out and completely outplayed Washington. The only stat that didn't show it was the score. We gave up four big plays (which is the one thing that our team was notorious for NOT doing). After that game I sure as shit didn't write some article worthy of toilet paper expressing how we couged it, I did what all proud cougars did, drank myself to near death. I'm not going to even acknowledge the rest of this article and I apologize for switching to football. As for our drunk rowdy student section, atleast we have school spirit. A school of about 20,000 grad students voted our mascot as the best mascot of the year. That's saying alot considering we were one of the smallest schools competing, maybe the smallest. And who had the space needle painted in their school colors? You'ld think that a school like Washington would have far more well-off almuni.

This coming game on Feb. 14 is not going to be the same game as we played in Pullman. We'll be playing against a motivated Washington team and a pissed off crowd. I have enough respect for my opponents to know this. About ten of my friends and myself will be there, wearing crimson and being loud as hell.

The last thing I have to say is WSU has fought from being ranked last in the PAC-10 to being 3rd. Washington was nationally ranked, far overrated, and has fallen among the worst teams in the PAC-10.

Fucking Go Cougs!

#13 army coug
(Susanville, CA | Unverified Name)

on February 3, 2007 at 4:27 p.m.
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By the way I couldn't help but notice all my fellow cougs made valid points. All the Huskies that posted something about this article did was bash the cougars and they didn't do it in a classy way either. It was pretty much "cougar fans are too stupid to understand the article." Actually read the posts and I think you'll see the same.

#14 stoppa
(Pullman, WA | Unverified Name)

on February 8, 2007 at 9:19 p.m.
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I will be so pissed if U-Dub gets an NIT bid. Here's an analogy question for U-Dub students: Tyrone Willingham is to mediocre as U-Dub basketball is to:
a.) sucks
b.) NIT hopeful
c.) Pac-10 #10
d.) watchin the tourney from the couch
e.) all of the above

#15 Chris
(Pullman, WA | Unverified Name)

on February 10, 2007 at 12:27 p.m.
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This was actually printed in the Daily? You are a pathetic excuse for a journalist, and I hesitate to even call you that. Your article is made up of illogical claims based off of a fictional account of the events. Not only that, but your writing ability is nonexistent as shown by this sophmoric drivel. I should've know what I was getting myself into when I read your headline, as creative as it was using Hunter S. Thompson's phrase and replacing the location. How creative that was! I doubt any mediocre, wannabe journalist has done that before!

Note that last sentence was sarcasm. Quit the newspaper, buddy, because you fucking suck. I would've enjoyed a good Coug bashing had it been done well, that is part of the fun of the rivalry. What you wrote was a disgrace to The Daily and the UW Communications program.

-Chris

#16 Bob
(Pullman, WA | Unverified Name)

on February 11, 2007 at 12:01 a.m.
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Hey Buddy.. If you think that is quality sport columnist material, you better head back to high school. Slander gets you sued ya know.. Just a thought to throw out there

#17 hahaha
(Seattle, WA | Unverified Name)

on February 11, 2007 at 8:23 p.m.
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it's the second week of february and these neanderthal cougs keep posting, hilarious!

#18 Michael Preston
(Pullman, WA | Unverified Name)

on February 14, 2007 at 11:38 a.m.
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Yeah pardon me hahaha (by the way, nice name selection jackass), but when were insulted in a newspaper that is read by probably 30,000 UW students a day, we take it seriously, especially when a lot of the things said in the article were fabricated and the author of said article cannot get his facts straight.

Josh, all I have to say is: really? To you really think any self-respecting journalist would create such a large, opinionated and unsubjective piece of crap full of fabrications and lies such as this? No. Go ask Steve Kelley over at the Times, Michael Smith at the Boston Globe, Bill Simmons at ESPN.com or Woody Paige at the Denver Post (yeah, I know, Smith and Paige, the only reason I know them is because of Around the Horn, give me a break).

Now, unlike other Cougar fans, I'm not going to start cussing and calling you a wuss. There is no class in that. And I'm sure its not right. Your probably a decent enough guy who didn't really do a good job of endearing yourself to an entire university with 22,000 students.

The fact is, I came to this school to get a degree in broadcasting, because we have one of the finest communication schools in the country. I looked into the U's, but the only reason its there is to satisfy an easy major for athletes. I am from the westside, Woodinville if you know it. But coming to this town, I have an extreme passion for this team, because its all the people on this side of the mountains has. This town, the Palouse and all of eastern Washington might as well be painted crimson and gray. If you looked out your window at the right time on the drive here on Highway 26, somewhere between Othello and Washtucna I believe, you saw a huge steel building with "GO COUGS" paints on the side. The passion for this team is well beyond anything I have ever seen for the Huskies.

Josh, we do drink here. There is nothing better to do than pound some beers and have a good time. Because, last I checked, that is what college is all about, breaking free of your parents and being free, and having the best 4 years of your life. Pardon us if we choose to live it to the fulliest. The arrest statistics for that game were as follows: two, count 'em TWO people were arrested, and they were pulling the cushions out of chairs and throwing them, which I believe is assault and battery. The newspaper, every seat in the student section gets one and we throw them whne the Voice of God (Glenn Johnson) finishs the opposing team's introductions.

But I think what kills me the msot, what really gets to Cougar fans the most, is not the insults your threw, not the condesending remarks, it was the fact that you had nothing good to say about our team, our coach or our fans. We take insults to them very seriously, and it hurts everytime, because many of us know these guys personality and hate to see them down. When Nikola Koprivica went down with a torn ACL, the outpouring of support to his dorm room was insane. Flowers, get well cards, ballons and even a few basketball lined the hallway.

Its not tough to say something good, I can do it right now about your football team. They played exceptionally, especially the special teams, in the Apple Cup. Ty Willingham has recruited well and made the Huskies a force to be reckoned with in the coming years. Mr. Romar has turned the UW basketball program around, and, with a year that we'll call a "speed bump" on his road to sucess, he should have this team in the Elite 8 or even the Final Four by 2008.

See its not that tough. Josh, I wish you success in your journalism endevour, just try and turn down the hate, as people before me have said, you can be sued for libel, and your newspaper really won't appreciate it.

By the way, your Husky fans burned a Cougar jersey on our FieldTurf fter the Apple Cup. It caused a lot of damage and WE had to pay for it. And you want to talk about class?

Thank you for your time

Sincerely,
Michael Preston, Freshman, Broadcasting

#19 WSUPD
(Seattle, WA | Unverified Name)

on February 14, 2007 at 5:22 p.m.
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we have reviewed your comment mike, underage drinking is illegal, you will be contacted*

(* - not really a message from the WSUPD, but Mrs. Preston isn't happy)

#20 Nick
(Snohomish, WA | Unverified Name)

on February 14, 2007 at 11:33 p.m.
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Another article by another ignorant Husky Fan (as if there’s anything but an ignorant Husky). Here we go again guys, four losses in a row. Now it's time to find something to talk about...You Husky fans are the furthest thing from the definition of class so why bash on the Cougs? Well with the current Husky record I guess that's the only thing you really do have going for you is s$%t talking. That's ok, everyone in Pullman will be fine with you having nothing to do during March while we're in the tournament. Again, great article. Good luck trying to find a job in anything close to journalism after you graduate (if you ever do graduate).

#21 Valentine's Day Game
(Pullman, WA | Unverified Name)

on February 15, 2007 at 1:49 a.m.
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Forgot to mention your rant about us imitating Florida's Gator Chomp. Yeah.. did you see the V-Day game? Did you see the crossed-out cougar shirts? Notice how we've had those shirts for years with huskies on them? Did you hear the "Go Cougs!" chant the fans were cheering, while substituting "Huskies?" Maybe it's an effort to get Harry a little better status as mascot. I mean, Butch won with that cheer, so it should work for the Huskies, right? The fact that you put so much effort into your article's angle is commendable, though you have far-breached the line into excessive. The slander in this article is overwhelming, and is definitely cause for a case of libel. If I were in your position, I would consider two options: either choose an appropriate story angle with correct facts, or consider NOT being a journalist. It gives talented, aspiring journalists a poor image when people like you are given the chance to write.

#22 UDUB makes me :(
(Pullman, WA | Unverified Name)

on March 4, 2007 at 6:34 p.m.
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Really great article. Award winning reporting. Yes, very good, For me to poop on! Come on man, hoestly. I'm not even going to attempt to give you constructive criticism, pretty sure you would ignore it any way . . . Go Cougs!


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