By
Christian Caple,
Eric Nusbaum,
Joshua Mayers,
Justin Chartrey
November 17, 2006
Who was more overrated for the Cougars: Mike Price or Ryan Leaf?
Chartrey: For the Cougars, I'm going to say that Ryan Leaf was more overrated. Mike Price was the best thing the Cougs had going in the late '90s with all their 10-win seasons. When he left, he definitely left the program better than he found it. Leaf on the other hand was merely a product of Price's system, and following college spent his career warming the bench and yelling at reporters. But a guy who gets fired from a coaching job before his first game? Now that's someone I could get behind.
Mayers: Those darn Cougars. I'm so tired of all their crap. My most overrated WSU loser is Jason Gesser. I remember when the Huskies knocked him out of the 2002 Apple Cup and beat an overrated WSU team that misguidedly had national championship aspirations. Gesser had a shorter NFL stint than Ryan Leaf and now coaches high school quarterbacks in Federal Way. Those Cougar greats are really something. Oh and how's Drew Bledsoe doing? Ha!
Caple: Well, Ryan Leaf actually had a good college career, so I don't know how overrated he was. Obviously he was a huge bust in the NFL, but what did you expect? He had to Coug it somehow. Mike Price, on the other hand, was overrated as a coach and as a human being. Checking into a hotel with strippers? What with all that booze, gambling and sex, maybe Miami should give him a call after they fire Larry Coker.
Nusbaum: Even Cougar fans recognize Ryan Leaf as the epitome of overrated in modern sports. In other words, for me to claim that anything in this world, anything at all, is more overrated than Leaf would be heretical. It would be like Galileo telling the Vatican the earth revolves around the sun. Except I'd be wrong. So very, very wrong.
Bigger rival: Washington State or Oregon?
Chartrey: Fans might tell you that they hate the Ducks more, but that doesn't make it a great rivalry. Rivalry needs tradition and the Apple Cup has plenty of that. The history between the east and west side goes way back, further than '94 anyway. Both teams have ruined the other's season on several occasions, including bids for national titles. There's a trophy, there's bragging rights, there's state pride. That's a rivalry.
Mayers: You can't go wrong with either of these, but my choice is the Ducks. Their fans are vile, their players (e.g. Aaron Brooks) are dirty and every year they have another set of ridiculous new uniforms. WSU doesn't deserve the honor of being our true rival, even though they want it so desperately. Beating them is great, losing to them sucks, but I don't hate them. Naw, my hatred is reserved to those damn Ducks.
Caple: Oregon, without a doubt. Why? Because they're usually decent and they base the success of their season on whether or not they beat Washington. Kenny Wheaton is legendary in Eugene because of his interception against UW in '94. That's the only reason why. He never played in the NFL. He never won anything. He beat Washington. So that makes him a hero. By that logic, what does that make Matt Kegel?
Nusbaum: As far as I'm concerned, the team we perform better against is a bigger rival. For example, in last year's regular Pac-10 basketball season, Oregon was a bigger rival because we beat them twice and got swept by the Cougs. Then, in the Pac-10 Tournament when we lost to the Ducks, WSU was a bigger rival. That way things always end up the way they should be — with the Huskies on top.
What the heck happened to Corey Williams?
Chartrey: Corey Williams probably couldn't even tell you what happened on that play three years ago, because he pretty much hasn't seen the field since then. Fans still had fresh memories of another Williams making Saturday afternoons worthwhile and over-hyped the young freshman. He has the talent but doesn't fit Tyrone Willingham's system. I guess 6-foot-2 receivers with blazing speed have trouble breaking into the two deeps.
Mayers: Corey Williams retired on top. I don't care what these other kids say. After a game-winning catch in the '03 Apple Cup that will go down in infamy, what else could he do? He wasn't the most highly recruited kid out of high school and wasn't likely to play in the NFL, but he left a legacy. Everyone will remember his name and now he has a highlight they can replay the rest of their lives.
Caple: Corey Williams? We're 4-7, and you want to talk about Corey Williams? We can't beat Stanford, and you want to talk about Corey WILLIAMS? How about this: What happened to this team? Where's the heart? Where's anyone right now? Corey Williams has shown up just as often as everyone else has. The brick wall at Notre Dame didn't do a whole lot for his career, either.
Nusbaum: Who?
More embarrassing: 3-19 or the possibility of three straight losses to the Cougars?
Chartrey: Losing three straight Apple Cups would be a disaster, an embarrassment and would ruin any progress made this season. But winning three games in two years? There's only one word for that, and unfortunately it can't be used in public print. In the history of the UW/WSU rivalry, the Huskies have the clear-cut advantage in wins. But the worst two-year stretch in the program is an unforgettable stain.
Mayers: There isn't one part of Washington football that is more embarrassing than the other, but losing three times to the Cougs is near unthinkable. Washington football greatness is one of the things that brought me to this fine school, so potentially experiencing the worst results in nearly 100 years of the Apple Cup breaks my heart. Just writing about this pains me.... ouch.
Caple: 3-19 is more embarrassing than losing to the Cougars three straight years. I never bought into the whole "beat your rival and everything is fine" attitude. In other words, I don't go to Oregon. But you know what's more embarrassing than 3-19? Losing at home to the worst team in the country. Pass the flask, please.
Nusbaum: 3-19. Because remember, when we lose to Wazzu, they aren't our biggest rival. And seriously a team that loses 19 games in two seasons has far greater concerns than dropping some rivalry games that don't carry bowl implications.
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